If you speed run Braflox HM (a primer on how to get blacklisted)

[AiChyan]

They were probably screwing with you. Sorry about that..

[Lunavi]

Here is Lunavi's guide to how to get perma blacklisted by all players on your entire server and most likely getting banned:
> Play BLM
> After big pull, do not attack.
> Start doing the Manderville
> Type in the lyrics for Gangnam Style with sound emotes after every line.
> Call the tank noob and tell everyone that rages that they simply can not handle your swaggah
> ???????
> Profit! You can no longer get any groups and you will in a couple of hours be unable to log into your account

Congratulations! You just got yourself blacklisted!


The topic was how to get BLISTed after all


As others have pointed out: Did you turn the boss around like you "should"? I always do everything I can to decrease fail posibility as I know all stuff that can fail will with PuGs.

[ShadowHunterrX]

The problem is with these kinds of threads is that you only hear one side of the story and who says that you are not changing the story in you favor.

I have bad exp with people in Brayflox and most of them were tanks with a not so friendly way of acting. The way you talk here wont suprise me , that you were not also mister nice guy while playing with them. Some people will troll you on purpose bec of that .

blowfin
No, you should LB the boss prior to this, you can kill it before the big bomb even pops.

Sorry , this depends on how high DPS is and thats different every DF. I decide to do LB when he does his bombardment AOE or already low HP. Most of the time the other DPS can give the final blow 1 sec after. I have played with many dps lower then 70i so this is the best to do sometimes.

[tEtna]

The problem is with these kinds of threads is that you only hear one side of the story and who says that you are not changing the story in you favor.

I have bad exp with people in Brayflox and most of them were tanks with a not so friendly way of acting. The way you talk here wont suprise me , that you were not also mister nice guy while playing with them. Some people will troll you on purpose bec of that .



Sorry , this depends on how high DPS is and thats different every DF. I decide to do LB when he does his bombardment AOE or already low HP. Most of the time the other DPS can give the final blow 1 sec after. I have played with many dps lower then 70i so this is the best to do sometimes.

Actually the last phase is decided by the boss health, its always the same. If you LB as the boss shoots into the air at the last 20%, you will always kill him before the big bomb.

[Viore]

You must have missed the bit where I said it was facing in a sensible direction. Not that I expect people to fully read threads around here.

a sensible direction? rly? not that i expect people to use more rational descriptions like to the wall or to away from grp, oh wait u didnt turn it away from grp, but u insisted to stay right where u are, no matter where the rest of the grp was. and that is a bad tank, yes. a good tank would ve moved the boss away. even if the dps and heal still hug u, move boss away.

Yeah, you know what I do as a DPS if i get hit by frontal AOE? Get the hell out. The tank can't move your character for you. They were basically out of my line of sight where they were standing.

no...but the tank can move the boss...

[Kuwagami]

Second wipe came because the big bomb got off. I'll accept partial blame for that - I had assumed the other DD would LB it, at a certain point I should have just popped it off anyways, but it killed us of course.

That wipe shouldn't have happened. Unless your tank wasn't overgeared (but I expect if for a semi SR), he could have solo'ed the after bomb phase. I do it pretty regularly (DDs getting hit by the hit-and-run while LBing, no LB, party wipe...).

You must have missed the bit where I said it was facing in a sensible direction. Not that I expect people to fully read threads around here.

Not trying to call you a bad tank, really, but how can you say you faced boss in a "sensible" direction if your party ate the flamethrower ? This kind of amazed me. All I can understand here is that you moved your boss where you wanted it, didn't bother to hug wall/move as needed and thus wiped your team. Because you know, you should be out of center for this boss... and if your team goes with you in front of the boss, just move. That is YOUR duty as a tank.


putting it simple : if your party dies from a conal AoE TWICE, you (as the tank) are in fault, no matter how idiotic these people are.

[Pseudopsia]

It's hard for me to take this seriously. When I tank I always move the boss so there's no one behind me. I never rely on other members to move.

I have never had anyone die to the boss' cone attack, then again I usually tank on the outside so there's no way anyone could be behind me.

This was in roulette, all 3 wipes during the same run.

Okay, not taking it seriously anymore. You expect the 3 other players in a roulette to be experienced? And how are you going to blacklist them if they are on another server?

Serious speed runs I always do in PF.

[Gardes]

What's next? Tank pulls Ifrit with a throw as he charges in and gets blamed when the rest of the party follows him right away and gets incinerated as the tank passes through?

[valho]

And this is the kind of attitude tank gets, tank make a thread about healer, dps causing wipe, and the first thing that comes to mind, oh must be the tank fault. No one ever think that the heal and dps could just be trolling the tank and purposely moving into AOE direction. So if the party move behind the tank, tank turns the boss so it's not facing the party, party follow suits and stay behind the tank, it's still the tank fault?

Unless he tanks the boss in a very different manner than other player tank, there is no reason at all for the heal/dps to ever even move from the center, none. Unless of course he decide to tank with the boss facing the center, which I kinda doubt so.

There is always two side of the story, sure the tank might be bad, but the heal/dps might be trolling as well.

[Mordermi]

When you say "sensible direction", what do you mean? I tank that boss with my back against the wall. The dps/healer would have to be right on the wall with me to get hit by anything. If they took that effort to get onto the wall with me, and cramp up their camera, then they are probably trolling. If they were standing there, then I would kindly ask them to stand in the middle. If they did not move after me requesting it, and telling them of the AoE attack, then they are obviously trolling, and I am leaving.