Stiffer Penalties for those leaving dungeons!!

[Sapphic]

A lot of people don't seem to know this, judging by what I've come across, but there is an ingame translator. It might not have everything, but you can piece together things and people understand >.> And anything in <t> gets translated too. So you could easily do "<t>" [Attack]" and mark them

Why should I have to? Why cant they be proactive and do it themselves before? Why should I have to struggle with an auto translator that many, many times do not work due to sentance structure and grammer? Why should they make it so much harder for everyone else?

Am I suppose to battle with the translater during the fight if they make a mistake risking dieing to AE or losing aggro whilst doing so? What if the translater doesnt cover what is needed to be communicated?

I have ZERO problems helping new people who listen, understand and improve from it. Even if its not a kill. I do have problems with people who totally ignore and do not communicate in anyway, or join with a language set that they do not understand and cannot communicate in anyway with people who want to help them. In that case they SHOULD do some research on sites that explains things in their own language beforehand, or join a FC/LS with players they can communicate with to help them.

BTW I speak 3 languages fluently.

Simple question: Why go into a dungeon expecting others to teach you? It is not your right to expect others to do that. Those who reply that they won't watch a vid, won't research their rotations. If you can't do it for yourself, why do you expect others to do it for you? The other members in that party you join are not there for you, they owe you nothing. When people do give advice and instructions on how to run a dungeon, it's them making an effort to have an enjoyable experience in the dungeon. If they can make that effort. why can't you?

[Freyar]

It should stay where it is. Anything more and then it's unjust for those who really are getting hit with people who can't manage.

Vote Abandon should stay. If the majority wants to leave, well.. bummer.

[alhandra]

i normally queue as a tank or healer. scholar is my main. i have been guilty of leaving instances right out the front door on occasion. generally the reasons for leaving aren't as maniacal as you guys are making it out to be. i will leave the instance if...

A. i dont have much time and was hoping for a short run or trial in my roulette. when this is the case i will tell the pt right from the gate that i wont have time to complete the dungeon and will just eat the penalty rather than waste even more of peoples time by dropping half way thru.

B. if more than one person is severely under geared for the encounter. ive seen some really poorly geared people out there. and im sorry but im not going to waste my time with people who cant even be bothered to upgrade their gear for lvl 50 dungeons. the game practically throws gil at you while lvling up. use it to upgrade your gear. AF/GC gear doesn't bother me, but tanks in lvl 35 accessories that dont even have stats appropriate to their class will almost certainly provoke me to leave the dungeon early

C. the party wipes but then fails to communicate afterwards to try and remedy the situation. buy a fking keyboard off amazon for 10 bux and stop being lazy

[lxSch]

You cannot force people to do what they do not want in the game. I stopped doing low level and expert roulette because generally it is a waste of time. I am still doing the high level roulette, but close to stopping doing it too. Many other people do the same, proof is many brayflox 2-3 boss teams in the party finder.
Most of people i meet in DF now are newbies who have recently started playing and would not think of abandoning the dungeon. The harsher penalties are - the less experienced players will queue for roulette, and what can barely geared people do alone?
Today i queued for copperbell in progress for atma book quest - all 3 players were 1st time and stuck at the 2nd boss because had no clue what to do, their healer quit (when i entered they already have been there for 40 minutes). I explained them what to do and we passed the rest of the dungeon in like 15 minutes. I queued for DD (lv44) next and again all 3 players were 1st time, but it is an easy dungeon. I keep getting 3k hp dps and 4k hp tanks for copperbell hard in the high roulette for the 3rd day in a row (i completed those runs but it's an extreme healer task to keep the tank alive).
People leave because they think trying to complete the dungeon is a waste of time.
SE needs to stop being sub-greedy and increase myth/sol rewards in the roulette so doing it will be meaningful again. Any kind of forcing will just make people to stop doing roulettes.

[necrosis]

Why can't we queue for in progress instances only as well as new only or either?

I was wondering when this would come up.

SE should NEVER, EVER allow an option for 'in progress' only. If you can not understand why this is a massively bad idea, then, well nothing I can say will change your mind.

i normally queue as a tank or healer. scholar is my main. i have been guilty of leaving instances right out the front door on occasion. generally the reasons for leaving aren't as maniacal as you guys are making it out to be. i will leave the instance if...

A. i dont have much time and was hoping for a short run or trial in my roulette. when this is the case i will tell the pt right from the gate that i wont have time to complete the dungeon and will just eat the penalty rather than waste even more of peoples time by dropping half way thru.

I don't even... this is just... I am at a loss of words.

If you do not have the time to complete the zone DO NOT QUEUE. PEROID. Waste any more of peoples time? How about not waste it at all. This is just the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. Ahh! Tank and healer main! That explains it. You have no concept of what it is like to seek for hours on a DPS job to only have someone like you who has no concept of being considerate to others dropping out with 'I'm sorry. I can not manage time.".

Just wow.

[Arkista]

You cannot force people to do what they do not want in the game. .

Its ok let players get what they want. Enforce stricter penalties, remove vote abandon, add rewards to the end of each run, Anything else I miss? Let SE do it, Then see how many people cry because they have to wait 60mins+ in Queue because no one wants to deal with stupid crap.

The only Duty Roulettes I even do are the Main and Trials the rest are a complete waste.

[Macka]

Its ok let players get what they want. Enforce stricter penalties, remove vote abandon, add rewards to the end of each run, Anything else I miss? Let SE do it, Then see how many people cry because they have to wait 60mins+ in Queue because no one wants to deal with stupid crap.

The only Duty Roulettes I even do are the Main and Trials the rest are a complete waste.

I'm the opposite I think main scenario and High level is a complete waste of time.

[Arkista]

I'm the opposite I think main scenario and High level is a complete waste of time.

Main Scenario takes like 30mins and Trials depending on which takes less than 10mins. Low, High, Expert are all a waste of time.

[Ddmk]

Disagree completely as irl circumstances can change
I.e the other night I had to leave a dungeon just after start
My baby girl had pooed leaked out her nappy and had to be bathed
Once I was done I was able to reque.
With your proposal I'd have to wait a extra 30-60 mins

NO THANK YOU

If some1 leaves get a friend or fc member to join in progress,
No one to join? Change for a better fc

[Suki-]

Had a tank leave during the cutscene for copperbell. Didn't even see them. Don't know why these people hit accept when they're not going to stay. Was not terribly impressed.

Saying that, I'm not exactly for or against stiffer penalties. As there are legitimate reasons to leave. The scaling is a good suggestion though, harsher penalties for leaving an excessive amount of times.

What needs to be fixed first tho is players leaving before a duty has even commenced >~<