Solo Dungeons

[Vortall]

I think the main reason behind this discussion, is due to loot ninjas.
You open a chest in a dungeon, its an item for your Specific class, and you desperately need it!
But an obvious Lv50 rolls the greed on a the armor/weapon that they dont even need (its likely going to end up on the Market Boards).

Then there's the Loot Cheaters, who seem to roll 90+ on every single armor/weapon obtained from a chest.

In a Solo dungeon, you wouldn't have to worry about getting nice, unique green rated gear, cause you'd be the only person there.

Story Quests and Class/Job quests are Single Player quests, sure. But the gear you get from them? Its normal, its gear you can buy from NPCs or make through crafting.

Perhaps, if they limited the 'solo' dungeon to once a day, or once per class, and you only got gear for that class, that wouldn't promote too much Solo play.

[ColorOfSakura]

It is really best to just do dungeons as you hit the level to get to them (or at least close to.)

Grinding to 50 and then doing dungeons will actually likely frustrate other players in your party (especially if they're vets). If you're standard level, a lot of players will simply go "Oh, okay, they're low level. We'll make sure to ask if they need advice." If I examine your gear and see that it's Level 50 gear and you're running around a low level dungeon not knowing what to do, I'll probably raise an eyebrow at it.

Also, pay attention to the chat box when you can and any advice given to you. Not playing your role properly (especially as a Tank) and then not listening to any helpful advice to help you improve, can and will give other players a headache.

I have a lot of patience with new players and really want to help, but advice can only go so far if the other player chooses not to listen to it.

[Niwashi]

You open a chest in a dungeon, its an item for your Specific class, and you desperately need it!
But an obvious Lv50 rolls the greed on a the armor/weapon that they dont even need

If you choose Need and they choose Greed, then they don't even get a roll. It's yours. If it's also for their current class, however, then they're able to select Need as well. In that case, you'd roll for it. And yes, some people choose Need unjustifiably, when they should be choosing Greed. The game provides some protection against that by not allowing Need if it's not for your current class, but something that is for your class, but isn't an upgrade still qualifies.

In a Solo dungeon, you wouldn't have to worry about getting nice, unique green rated gear, cause you'd be the only person there.

If solo versions of dungeons were made available, I'm sure the loot in them would be apportioned accordingly. You'd go from having a 1/4 or 1/8 chance of getting items from each chest to a guarantee of getting items from 1/4 or 1/8 as many chests (or perhaps they'd just drop the chances of "good" items in each chest). Overall, there'd be no difference.

[eruntalo]

Hey there, damo!

I was your healer in that Sunken Temple of Qarn run. I hope the experience was enjoyable and that you continue to go through the dungeons.

You picked up on my advice very quickly and did a great job.

Just a side note that marking mob kill order and AoE moves like overpower will greatly reduce the frequency of DPS and healers pulling hate off of you.

Good luck in the future!

[Cap75]

I think the main reason behind this discussion, is due to loot ninjas.
You open a chest in a dungeon, its an item for your Specific class, and you desperately need it!
But an obvious Lv50 rolls the greed on a the armor/weapon that they dont even need (its likely going to end up on the Market Boards).

Then there's the Loot Cheaters, who seem to roll 90+ on every single armor/weapon obtained from a chest.

Huh? Methinks you don't quite understand how the NGP system works. You can only roll Need on gear that is your specific class. It doesn't matter if other people Greed on it your Need overrules their Greed. So people can't take your class specific gear from you unless you don't roll Need or you're a DPS rolling against another DPS who Needed. Then you have a 50/50 chance. You can't Ninja loot in this game.

[damofitz]

You picked up on my advice very quickly and did a great job.

Just a side note that marking mob kill order and AoE moves like overpower will greatly reduce the frequency of DPS and healers pulling hate off of you.

Good luck in the future!

Thanks, you were pretty awesome yourself. A good healer seem to be the difference between victory and defeat from what I've seen
I did wonder why numbers kept popping up over the mobs heads to start with, pretty obvious once I realised. However I haven't figures out the marking yet as I didn't know it existed until today. I do overpower when I thought it was needed but I tend to run out of tp quickly if I spam it. How do you manage tp? Just not attack constantly?

Also, could someone tell me why sometimes I hear the loot drop noise but don't have a loot notification and no one appears to have picked any up

[damofitz]

I think the main reason behind this discussion, is due to loot ninjas.
You open a chest in a dungeon, its an item for your Specific class, and you desperately need it!
But an obvious Lv50 rolls the greed on a the armor/weapon that they dont even need (its likely going to end up on the Market Boards).

Most of the stuff I've seen drop has been untradable, but the need system still throws me at times, just when I think I understand, it becomes clear I don't. Like all class gear not giving me then option to need, even if its better than what I have already. Is need only for class specific, not all class gear?

[Freyar]

Most of the stuff I've seen drop has been untradable, but the need system still throws me at times, just when I think I understand, it becomes clear I don't. Like all class gear not giving me then option to need, even if its better than what I have already. Is need only for class specific, not all class gear?

You only get the option to need an item if it's meant for your class. IE: You're playing a BLM, and get a tank chest piece-- you won't be able to need it.

[Urthdigger]

Most of the stuff I've seen drop has been untradable, but the need system still throws me at times, just when I think I understand, it becomes clear I don't. Like all class gear not giving me then option to need, even if its better than what I have already. Is need only for class specific, not all class gear?

Even if a piece can be equipped by you, it may not be FOR you. A lot of mage gear is All classes for example. Generally, tank gear will have high stats in both defense types, bonuses to parry (Not always though), and the accessories will have vitality on them (All classes get vitality on their main 5 armor pieces and weapon). Also, even if a piece is higher level than what you have, if it's for another class it may not be an upgrade.

[duvvvv]

@topic I've played MMOs with a mechanic that allows a group of/single player(s) to experience a dungeon on ez mode (like setting up the tier 10 lvls below yours, duo party manageable or the game assigns npc allies if you go solo etc) and its purpose is nothing more than a simulator or an interactive map. Nothing beats the experience of trying out the dungeon firsthand. I hope @OP you find a regular group to practice with/get wiped out with lol