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    SionDurant's Avatar
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    Zohar Lumani
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    Excalibur
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    Zaels,

    Be reasonable, you're aggressively posting and calling names. People are just asking for an alternative to Atma, are you on FFXIV patrol duty to attack and dispatch all posters???

    NO!!! That means you are a troll by definition.

    Case/Point in your last post.
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    Zaels's Avatar
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SionDurant View Post
    you're aggressively posting and calling names.
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    troll
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcFinix View Post
    well mr troll..
    lolololololololol
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    Lucius Eventide
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SionDurant View Post
    Zaels,

    Be reasonable, you're aggressively posting and calling names. People are just asking for an alternative to Atma, are you on FFXIV patrol duty to attack and dispatch all posters???

    NO!!! That means you are a troll by definition.

    Case/Point in your last post.

    There is alternatives to atmas and the entire relic quest line. People just can't be bothered to do coil or farm levi ex. If people don't want to do the alternatives, they have to put up with the grind of atmas.


    Yeah I read a lot and have been told the BOOK PORTION of the relic quest is actually great fun, but NO ONE has told me Atma is fun and even some Hardcore players I speak to want it nerfed to oblivion.

    I'd be happy if they nerfed atma to 1 stone requirement but added double the books TBH lol
    I really enjoyed the atma part of the relic and hated the books of the braves. I would have rather farmed 24 atmas in exchange for only doing half of those awful books.

    At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.
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    Last edited by Licus; 04-30-2014 at 02:59 AM.

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    Kokurio Okumura
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Licus View Post
    At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.
    With your time that you put up, it will take 24.75 hours of non-stop grinding to obtain 13500 books. I spent 72 hours to get even the atma weapon (2056 fates .58% drop rate). The books are easy and a bit more enjoyable. These you can also see progress with each step that you take towards it, and thus can put a certain amount of time towards it so you can manage it and still see some sort of progression. You most likely got lucky with your atma progression and don't see the harsh effects of RNG.
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    Lavene Archnandez
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Licus View Post
    There is alternatives to atmas and the entire relic quest line. People just can't be bothered to do coil or farm levi ex. If people don't want to do the alternatives, they have to put up with the grind of atmas.




    I really enjoyed the atma part of the relic and hated the books of the braves. I would have rather farmed 24 atmas in exchange for only doing half of those awful books.

    At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.
    before ppl bring in the alternative suggestion again. u cannot skip 1 part of the game in favour of the other.. thats what happen to fate and thats what happen to us now
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