Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[SionDurant]

Zaels,

All you just did was troll with more paragraphs lol.

People are disappointed with this system by wide margin, why bother trying to convince them they're wrong about being upset????

That's WORSE than grinding Atma's imo.

[Zaels]

troll

another salty whiner that dismisses an opposing opinion as a troll. moving on

Keep in mind this is a "feedback" thread. If you can't handle opposing feedback, you're the one that's in the wrong.

And do please tell me how I'm trying to convince people they're wrong about being upset. My point was that the myth increase will likely save more time. Keep in mind I said likely because I am aware there are cases where people are unlucky and maybe spent 3000 FATEs with no Atmas.

[SionDurant]

Zaels,

Be reasonable, you're aggressively posting and calling names. People are just asking for an alternative to Atma, are you on FFXIV patrol duty to attack and dispatch all posters???

NO!!! That means you are a troll by definition.

Case/Point in your last post.

[Zaels]

you're aggressively posting and calling names.

troll

well mr troll..

lolololololololol

[Licus]

Zaels,

Be reasonable, you're aggressively posting and calling names. People are just asking for an alternative to Atma, are you on FFXIV patrol duty to attack and dispatch all posters???

NO!!! That means you are a troll by definition.

Case/Point in your last post.

There is alternatives to atmas and the entire relic quest line. People just can't be bothered to do coil or farm levi ex. If people don't want to do the alternatives, they have to put up with the grind of atmas.

Yeah I read a lot and have been told the BOOK PORTION of the relic quest is actually great fun, but NO ONE has told me Atma is fun and even some Hardcore players I speak to want it nerfed to oblivion.

I'd be happy if they nerfed atma to 1 stone requirement but added double the books TBH lol

I really enjoyed the atma part of the relic and hated the books of the braves. I would have rather farmed 24 atmas in exchange for only doing half of those awful books.

At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.

[SublimeIbanez]

At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.

With your time that you put up, it will take 24.75 hours of non-stop grinding to obtain 13500 books. I spent 72 hours to get even the atma weapon (2056 fates .58% drop rate). The books are easy and a bit more enjoyable. These you can also see progress with each step that you take towards it, and thus can put a certain amount of time towards it so you can manage it and still see some sort of progression. You most likely got lucky with your atma progression and don't see the harsh effects of RNG.

[ArcFinix]

There is alternatives to atmas and the entire relic quest line. People just can't be bothered to do coil or farm levi ex. If people don't want to do the alternatives, they have to put up with the grind of atmas.




I really enjoyed the atma part of the relic and hated the books of the braves. I would have rather farmed 24 atmas in exchange for only doing half of those awful books.

At least with fates for the atma portion, you are out in the open world experiencing variability. The books are a nightmare in contrast. It takes three hours of non-stop farming brayflox with 5 1/2 min runs to get a book and then you get to wait hours for three specific fates to pop up.

before ppl bring in the alternative suggestion again. u cannot skip 1 part of the game in favour of the other.. thats what happen to fate and thats what happen to us now

[ArcFinix]

another salty whiner that dismisses an opposing opinion as a troll. moving on

Keep in mind this is a "feedback" thread. If you can't handle opposing feedback, you're the one that's in the wrong.

And do please tell me how I'm trying to convince people they're wrong about being upset. My point was that the myth increase will likely save more time. Keep in mind I said likely because I am aware there are cases where people are unlucky and maybe spent 3000 FATEs with no Atmas.

point 1 finger at us and 4 at yourself? you are the one not handling feedback. myth increase save more time for book, but atma have no change? giving us more myth are useless when we don't even clear to animus?

[Roris]

People are disappointed with this system by wide margin, why bother trying to convince them they're wrong about being upset????

Because apparently luck is a skill just look at me I have a million Atmas thus I'm a better person than you, and also telling the devs they're perfect and can do no wrong helps them more than actually providing feedback on how to improve regardless of how it's worded even if the minority loves disregarding everything as "whining", funnily enough they also hate being called a minority even though that's what they really are. There's a fix coming anyway thanks to all the feedback posted, they delayed the next step due to how badly executed the previous step was so at least they're admitting their mistakes and doing something about it, though we'll have to wait and see how, in the end this harmful minority loses just like always.

[Licus]

Because apparently luck is a skill just look at me I have a million Atmas thus I'm a better person than you, and also telling the devs they're perfect and can do no wrong helps them more than actually providing feedback on how to improve regardless of how it's worded even if the minority loves disregarding everything as "whining", funnily enough they also hate being called a minority even though that's what they really are. There's a fix coming anyway thanks to all the feedback posted, they delayed the next step due to how badly executed the previous step was so at least they're admitting their mistakes and doing something about it, though we'll have to wait and see how, in the end this harmful minority loses just like always.

People with different opinions are the harmful minority now? Get over yourself.