Time to move on since Square Enix does not listen to its Constituents

[Magis]

What does this have to do with hardcore? Do hardcore players enjoy rolling a 100 sided dice for hours and hours hoping to score 95+? Does me saying I do not like this say something negative about me as a player?

The atma quests was ridiculous. Took me 13 hours to get my 1st atma....

Look at the relic quest, that's the best quest in any game I have ever played. It was really hard, and I had to develop so much as a player. I learned ALOT getting my relic. The fact that SE made the continuation of this great quest the most mind numbing skill-less trash of a quest in any current game says a lot about how much effort and time they are putting into ARR.

Farming itself takes determination to slog through and complete. This is opposed to skill which takes reflexes and knowledge. Both are staples of MMOs and I'd say both can be "hardcore" based on how much time and how difficult something is.

[Blackcanary]

Farming itself takes determination to slog through and complete. This is opposed to skill which takes reflexes and knowledge. Both are staples of MMOs and I'd say both can be "hardcore" based on how much time and how difficult something is.

But fates are not hard at all and ur just spamming the same attack or spell over again.

But I agree Farming does take determination to slog through and complete. Like when ur farming for items to sell to make money.