SMN BiS

[Seobit]

Torin posted a while ago showing that DET statistically parsed better than a CRIT build... by a very slight margin in the decimals. You could go either way and would probably not see the difference. Personally I think a more balanced approach is better.

That is because gear in general contains less det on it than other stats, it doesn't change the fact that 1 for 1 det is considerably more valuable than crit is. The i90 crit and det sets had 71 crit vs 45 det, and both came out almost equal, which in itself proves how much stronger of a stat det is compared to crit. I see people in this threat trading away 62 det for 67 crit in their sets which is absolutely horrendous.

My personal testing was swapping out crit heaving gear for Det heavy or just crit-less gear in T5

With allagan book and every piece of crit i90 I had I did ~340-350dps pretty often with a crit rate of 25% at best with lows of around 320 and 20% crit rates

With det and critless items (tidal wave book, moogle ribbon and some other changes but all ultimately higher int and magic damage too) I did an average of 320-330 with a high of 344 once. averaged 15-17% crit rates with this equipment. It entirely depends on how often you crit but heavy crits can outdo the sustained damage of det or underperform. Either way you actually need to test in game, not just do the math and run simulations.

On the contrary, anecdotal evidence has very little worth. The fact that you can get as much as 30 dps difference in your results from using the same exact gear shows how unreliable it is as a form of measurement. In game testing is prone to human error which invalidates the results categorically.

[Madoka]

It can definitely be less accurate depending on a whole slew of factors, but it's also the time when the numbers actually matter. A Simulation just pulls what it thinks your crit rate should be from probability too, when probability does not actually exist within the game. I still haven't crit on Asclepius using the tidal wave book which is pretty disappointing.

Though the BiS lists come down to nearly the same stats anyway since we just swap like 3 pieces to go from det to crit while keeping accuracy

[Seobit]

A Simulation just pulls what it thinks your crit rate should be from probability too

Yet that is exactly what the tools you would use to measure dps in game do, as it's impossible for them to actually detect crits from dots so a simulation based on probabilities is ran instead to guess whether a crit occurred or not, regardless of what actually happened in game. For all intent and purposes, testing in game is running a simulation.

[Zamii]

Isn't apkallu omelette going to solve none of your issues? Considering you hit with below 490 acc but your egi does not, then you are boosting it with food past the acc cap except for the fact that egis do not benefit from food. So your egi will still be below acc cap with that set up. So you are wasting the food the acc portion of the food, might as well just go buttons.

You also say you are fine with 1 or 2 misses from your egi, why not just aim for a 490 acc set without needing food to get it there?

accuracy is only a secondary stat on the omelettes, with the amount of crit i am using, the 27 crit on the omelettes is going to be better than not even coming close to hitting the stat cap on buttons for det

[Judge_Xero]

Both the DET and Crit BiS for SMN come out to about the same calculated potential. I'd go for the extra Crit in hopes of getting the extra pet speed procs to slightly increase Pet damage.

[Seaku]

accuracy is only a secondary stat on the omelettes, with the amount of crit i am using, the 27 crit on the omelettes is going to be better than not even coming close to hitting the stat cap on buttons for det

You aren't THAT far off from the det cap. You are getting 12 instead of 16, even with your accuracy you are getting 10 instead of 11 and wasting all of it. You can just use the evenstar trousers and bracelet, that'll bump it to 14 of 16 cap while keeping 496 acc without food. Until you get that T9 book, it'll be easy to get that cap as well. As the book of spades add so much det, might as well take advantage of it.

[Zamii]

Both the DET and Crit BiS for SMN come out to about the same calculated potential. I'd go for the extra Crit in hopes of getting the extra pet speed procs to slightly increase Pet damage.

glad im not the only summoner than keeps that passive in the back of their mind, sure spell speed is pretty bad for summoners, but regardless a dps increase, even if slight, is still a dps increase, and this one is essentially for free.

[bennettaj]

SMR BiS is the following

High Allagan Grimoire of Casting
High Allagan Mask of Casting
Evenstar Coat
High Allagan Gloves of Casting
High Allagan Belt of Casting
Evenstar Tights
High Allagan boots of Casting
Evenstar Earrings
Evenstar Necklace of Casting
Evenstar Armillae of Casting
High Allagan Ring of Casting
Evenstar Ring of Casting

Gets you exactly what you need

this one is prolly my fav ive seen so far, cuz its equally det and crit. i personally like a little more det. and the crit is pretty high still. and it equal on drops from coil and the evenstar stuff. so its not too many sands and oils. good build

[Syrellaris]

Yeah I looked at a lot of builds that people made and compared them to each other as well as give my own spins to it. Found this to be the most stable and well balanced build. That is what I am going for, now.. if I only would be in Coil second yet