SMN BiS

[Zamii]

I keep hearing Det is better for Smn and then I keep hearing crit is better. So I put food on to hit 606 crit with 287 Det and looked at the ticks for each dot. Then did the same for my 501 crit with 336 Det build. 7x each and Det came out the winner each time but only really by 10 dps. Could I get some feed back so I could make a bis?

did your int or weapon damage alter at all with these tests, if not then i'll have to run some tests of my own when servers come back up.

[Altimis]

I want to quote T0rin old saying

"SMN is not intented to be Critical class"

Balance is the best, just we that lazy ass to do mad math and intense test, just only need to find what is sweet spot between Det and Crit balancing

But I am Determination addicted anyway, Determination 362 with food is way to go!

[ManaKeKz]

With the numbers presently found on gear, crit is usually a higher boost to your statistical dps. Yes, it is more unreliable than determination, but over the course of a regular encounter crit will almost always result in higher numbers. The RNG madness of crit is really just an issue with low hp / duration encounters, but in those cases it shouldn't make much difference either.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the difference between secondary stats is really, really small - if you compare a full det build vs a full crit build of same ilevel the differences in damage are likely gonna be smaller than the standard deviation from spells or testing errors.

[Syrellaris]

SMR BiS is the following

High Allagan Grimoire of Casting
High Allagan Mask of Casting
Evenstar Coat
High Allagan Gloves of Casting
High Allagan Belt of Casting
Evenstar Tights
High Allagan boots of Casting
Evenstar Earrings
Evenstar Necklace of Casting
Evenstar Armillae of Casting
High Allagan Ring of Casting
Evenstar Ring of Casting

Gets you exactly what you need

[bennettaj]

SMR BiS is the following

High Allagan Grimoire of Casting
High Allagan Mask of Casting
Evenstar Coat
High Allagan Gloves of Casting
High Allagan Belt of Casting
Evenstar Tights
High Allagan boots of Casting
Evenstar Earrings
Evenstar Necklace of Casting
Evenstar Armillae of Casting
High Allagan Ring of Casting
Evenstar Ring of Casting

Gets you exactly what you need

this one is prolly my fav ive seen so far, cuz its equally det and crit. i personally like a little more det. and the crit is pretty high still. and it equal on drops from coil and the evenstar stuff. so its not too many sands and oils. good build

[Kirinichibon]

My belt is my last i80 item. I'm torn between i90 belt and evenstar coat or i100 belt and...waiting another week for my coat.

These wish lists are nice, but when your company is just working on t6/7, tiered BIS lists are more useful.

[Ambiguous]

The accuracy required for T9 is 491/492, and as such I have geared toward it accordingly (since I've been having attempts on it for a few weeks now). My BiS for SMN is looking like the following:

Weapon: High Allagan Grimoire of Casting
Head: High Allagan Mask of Casting
Chest: Evenstar Coat (requires Sand of Time x1)
Hands: High Allagan Gloves of Casting
Waist: Evenstar Sash of Casting (requires Sand of Time x1)
Legs: High Allagan Breeches of Casting
Feet: High Allagan Boots of Casting
Necklace: Evenstar Necklace of Casting (requires Oil of Time x1)
Earring: High Allagan Earrings of Casting
Bracelets: High Allagan Bracelet of Casting
Ring 1: Evenstar Ring of Casting (requires Oil of Time x1)
Ring 2: High Allagan Ring of Casting

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/M4NQ

[Syrellaris]

My belt is my last i80 item. I'm torn between i90 belt and evenstar coat or i100 belt and...waiting another week for my coat.

These wish lists are nice, but when your company is just working on t6/7, tiered BIS lists are more useful.

Accessories first as that will get you enough acc for t6-7 then work from there

[Seobit]

If you guys are going to claim one stat is better than another you better have hard evidence to substantiate that claim. Det was shown to be better than crit and there's been no proof of the contrary since.

[Syrellaris]

Determination gives you better damage all round but crit is just as important for fester andbruin spam. So why not gear appropriately for both wit det weighing a bit heavier then crit