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    SMN BiS

    i havent personally seen too many reliable BiS takes on SMN. so here's mine. i would like to see what you guys think. from what i hear the acc cap for smn is ~490? plz leave responses on something i may be leaving out or something that should be switched. thanks guys



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    your going to have to rely on getting oils and sands from t7+ for a lot of those loots, so it would take a long time to collect given the rest of your group would want them also.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MBYK
    Theres the BiS list i made, it has a lot more crit and relies a little more on high allagen drops than yours does, it is however a few points below acc cap for our pets, but seen as how its only a few points i dont see it being to harmful to overall dps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    your going to have to rely on getting oils and sands from t7+ for a lot of those loots, so it would take a long time to collect given the rest of your group would want them also.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MBYK
    Theres the BiS list i made, it has a lot more crit and relies a little more on high allagen drops than yours does, it is however a few points below acc cap for our pets, but seen as how its only a few points i dont see it being to harmful to overall dps

    hmm totally forgot about the oils and sands of time stuff. derp.
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    also, your DET is really low. i know crit is great, but with it it takes RNG right? so wouldnt goin for more DET be better since its a guaranteed DPS increase all the time?
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    Zamii your acc ends up at 496 which is plenty, we need like 492 I believe.

    Also Det is pretty minimal for SMN. I mean it's fine, but crit is ultimately better unless you get totally RNG blocked.

    I will point out though, that the allagan casting earrings are T9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    Zamii your acc ends up at 496 which is plenty, we need like 492 I believe.

    Also Det is pretty minimal for SMN. I mean it's fine, but crit is ultimately better unless you get totally RNG blocked.

    I will point out though, that the allagan casting earrings are T9
    for the accuracy, i chose to use apkallu omelettes for food due to having very minimal det to work with on my BiS list, and since it has accuracy on the food (which any good smn can tell you doesnt work on pets) its still actualy low.
    one day SE will let us buff out egis with food (ok lets be honest thats probably just a dream) but until then, i'll live with 1 or 2 misses here n there from my egi.

    as for the earrings being T9, so is the weapon thats on both of our BiS lists, more of a best case scenario, always gotta work with what we can get our hands on in the short term and aim for our goals in the long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    for the accuracy, i chose to use apkallu omelettes for food due to having very minimal det to work with on my BiS list, and since it has accuracy on the food (which any good smn can tell you doesnt work on pets) its still actualy low.
    one day SE will let us buff out egis with food (ok lets be honest thats probably just a dream) but until then, i'll live with 1 or 2 misses here n there from my egi.

    as for the earrings being T9, so is the weapon thats on both of our BiS lists, more of a best case scenario, always gotta work with what we can get our hands on in the short term and aim for our goals in the long term.
    Isn't apkallu omelette going to solve none of your issues? Considering you hit with below 490 acc but your egi does not, then you are boosting it with food past the acc cap except for the fact that egis do not benefit from food. So your egi will still be below acc cap with that set up. So you are wasting the food the acc portion of the food, might as well just go buttons.

    You also say you are fine with 1 or 2 misses from your egi, why not just aim for a 490 acc set without needing food to get it there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaku View Post
    Isn't apkallu omelette going to solve none of your issues? Considering you hit with below 490 acc but your egi does not, then you are boosting it with food past the acc cap except for the fact that egis do not benefit from food. So your egi will still be below acc cap with that set up. So you are wasting the food the acc portion of the food, might as well just go buttons.

    You also say you are fine with 1 or 2 misses from your egi, why not just aim for a 490 acc set without needing food to get it there?
    accuracy is only a secondary stat on the omelettes, with the amount of crit i am using, the 27 crit on the omelettes is going to be better than not even coming close to hitting the stat cap on buttons for det
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    accuracy is only a secondary stat on the omelettes, with the amount of crit i am using, the 27 crit on the omelettes is going to be better than not even coming close to hitting the stat cap on buttons for det
    You aren't THAT far off from the det cap. You are getting 12 instead of 16, even with your accuracy you are getting 10 instead of 11 and wasting all of it. You can just use the evenstar trousers and bracelet, that'll bump it to 14 of 16 cap while keeping 496 acc without food. Until you get that T9 book, it'll be easy to get that cap as well. As the book of spades add so much det, might as well take advantage of it.
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    I keep hearing Det is better for Smn and then I keep hearing crit is better. So I put food on to hit 606 crit with 287 Det and looked at the ticks for each dot. Then did the same for my 501 crit with 336 Det build. 7x each and Det came out the winner each time but only really by 10 dps. Could I get some feed back so I could make a bis?
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