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    I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

    As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

    As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.
    There are pros and cons for every idea. You're more likely to anger people on the forums though lol Just another day on the forums is all...Can't wait for more CT though, especially if Cloud of Darkness is a boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

    As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.
    look there is a difference between "good" fanservice and "bad" fanservice

    "Good" Fanservice: Oblique references, side characters thrown in that give you a chuckle when you notice them, maybe even a few of the MID-bosses NAMES being used, one time events that come and go once maybe twice like the XI and XIII event...

    "Bad" Fanservice: Direct shoehorning of characters from previous tittles into the Main Story just because they were popular... along time ago, adding The Big Bad from other games just to scream "HEY! REMEMBER THIS? WASN'T THIS COOL! LOVE MEEEE! LOOOOOVE MEEEE!"

    Basically, it's kinda like repeating a joke, Clever people can take the joke tweak it a bit and make it their own, the other is just standing around repeating lines from Popular movies until everyone want's to punch you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    look there is a difference between "good" fanservice and "bad" fanservice

    "Good" Fanservice: Oblique references, side characters thrown in that give you a chuckle when you notice them, maybe even a few of the MID-bosses NAMES being used, one time events that come and go once maybe twice like the XI and XIII event...

    "Bad" Fanservice: Direct shoehorning of characters from previous tittles into the Main Story just because they were popular... along time ago, adding The Big Bad from other games just to scream "HEY! REMEMBER THIS? WASN'T THIS COOL! LOVE MEEEE! LOOOOOVE MEEEE!"
    Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.
    I'm a pretty big fan of the Kingdom Hearts series but it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's also a nightmare for people who are really into lore concerning FF chars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTribal View Post
    Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.
    cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.
    Ummm Zack would like to speak with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.
    Not to get off topic, but that's plainly because the FF characters couldn't change worlds, and the game's story is world based. When ever you had to visit worlds multiple times (e.g. All the worlds in KHII) you the FF characters were again story relevant.
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    Ummm Zack would like to speak with you.
    To be fair, I'm not even sure what how that's relevant seeing as Zack never appear outside of KHBBS (and they could have added something too since both Zack and Cloud were in the coliseum).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    To be fair, I'm not even sure what how that's relevant seeing as Zack never appear outside of KHBBS (and they could have added something too since both Zack and Cloud were in the coliseum).
    It's extremely relevant seeing as how Zack is a character that stuck around for more than a few minutes and impacted the main storyline. Read the quote.

    Also how is KHBBS any different than KH? Is it not canon or something? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.
    What about auron, he fights with the team in II.
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