JENOVA

[FritoBandito]

I love the idea of previous bosses making their way into this game. What's great about them is that they are OPTIONAL! Debbie Downers who don't like it don't have to participate.

Could be cool if, as you fight her through her phases, she shifts into her different forms.

[Linadae]

Absolutely not. It's bad enough we got FF13 crammed down our throats, we don't need FF7 too. I don't mind them reusing obscure bosses but not main bosses.

[ruinedmirage]

Why not just play FFVII again?

My young friends, cheap fanservice like this is known as "jumping the shark" (look it up). Speaking of aquatic animals in games, when will I be able to fly to the moon on a whale in this game?

Same day Aerith appears to sell flowers in Ul'dah slums.

Sooner than expected then XD

[mythicrose]

...when will I be able to fly to the moon on a whale in this game?

Same day Aerith appears to sell flowers in Ul'dah slums.

[Tharian]

Same day Aerith appears to sell flowers in Ul'dah slums.

They already did a Cameo for a Final Fantasy Game like that. It resulted in both Cloud and Aerith making an appearance in that game (Although the Aerith wasn't actually Aerith). And the player got control of Cloud for the entire rest of that game... I do not want a Cloud Companion to be present in FFXIV.....................

And for those nay sayers who are claiming that Final Fantasy 7 Characters can't travel to Eorzea because they don't have the ability to travel to other dimensions. There is actually precedent. Cloud traveled to the world of Ivalice via the Lifestream when he ended up in the Lifestream during Final Fantasy VII. Interestingly enough, Ivalice does not have a Lifestream to the best of my knowledge. It does however sport Materia, which was their Justification for it.

Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy XIV both share the phenomena known as the Lifestream. As such travel between the two worlds via the Lifestream should be more than possible. In fact it is even possible that Eorzea is an older version of Final Fantasy VII's world. Afterall Costa Del Sol exists in both games....

[DefendPopPunk]

You're right guys, they only put constants across all of final fantasy in this game. Such as magitek armor, qiqirn, mamool ja, crystal tower and it's numerous bosses, Gold Saucer, FFXIII armor and weapons, gun blades, phantom trains, Mnejing, warrior of light's armor, seventh heaven, braver, materia, final heaven, zell's tattoo, shantotto, lightning, and the zodiac braves, among others. Only constants are allowed, such as these, and any nostalgic references(unlike these) must be avoided so as to prevent this game from jumping the shark (look it up).

[DefendPopPunk]

That's a great definition you've sort of invented there, of what is good and bad fan service, but clearly that's your opinion. That would imply, however, that Jenova or any other FF boss would have to be included as a main boss, and if it was optional, then it would be good fan service and no one should have a problem with it (by your definition).

[Pandastirfry]

That's a great definition you've sort of invented there, of what is good and bad fan service, but clearly that's your opinion. That would imply, however, that Jenova or any other FF boss would have to be included as a main boss, and if it was optional, then it would be good fan service and no one should have a problem with it (by your definition).

noooo..that still fall under the Family Guyesque "Hey Kids Remember the Eigthies" type shoehorning for the sake of shoehorning. Jenova was a freakin' Big Bad... if you add it as anything other than a Big Bad, then what's the point other than fan jollies. when you do obvious fanservice for the sake of obvious fanservice, it's bad, when you do that you're no better than that dullard who keeps yelling lines from Taladega Nights, or Anchorman and wonders why no one is laughing.

[Jinko]

People saying you can't add iconic bosses forget we are getting gold saucer which although not a boss is an iconic piece of FFVII, we have already had Lightning and Snow and FFXIII related content, DQX stuff and Shantotto from XI.

I don't see the problem with adding JENOVA especially if they incorporate it into the storyline, it just takes a bit of imagination and open mindedness to get past the fact it was in VII.

[Vahlnir]

People saying you can't add iconic bosses forget we are getting gold saucer which although not a boss is an iconic piece of FFVII, we have already had Lightning and Snow and FFXIII related content, DQX stuff and Shantotto from XI.

I don't see the problem with adding JENOVA especially if they incorporate it into the storyline, it just takes a bit of imagination and open mindedness to get past the fact it was in VII.

You can't have an open mind or imagination on the forums. :P Especially on this type of thing.