ATMA ATMA ATMA

[Starlord]

He's telling you to go do something else.
Atma quest is optional, you don't have to do it if you don't like it.
There's plenty of other contents in the game.

Yes it is optional.

Does that mean the quest is still "good" because we can just simply skip it? If there something wrong with anything whether we skip it or not, as people who want to make this game better, we should speak up about it.

I don't complain much, but the FATE thing with Atma is just not cool man especially when drop rates are really low! lol

[Kiara1]

Yes it is optional.

Does that mean the quest is still "good" because we can just simply skip it? If there something wrong with anything whether we skip it or not, as people who want to make this game better, we should speak up about it.

I don't complain much, but the FATE thing with Atma is just not cool man especially when drop rates are really low! lol

Like someone else said earlier. Some people like it (Like me) and why should they remove the one really fun grindy thing there is in the game when it's optional. Let those who like grinding do it and you do something else you like doing.
The atma farming is one of my favourite parts of the new patch, but I don't do coil 2, yet I don't whine about it being too hard.

[odintius]

Your post argues in my favor. Why should something feel like a job when it's made for fun?

Because I don't mine the grind/timesink of what SE added for a single feature theirs a big difference in that alone perhapes which you wont grasp even if I'd explain it in detail. I will eventually get the atmas at a slower pace then adverage player's and I don't mind that at all I'm not in a race to get everything all at once and this feature wont change that opinion.

[Lollerblades]

I wish they'd give us an alternative. I don't find grinding fates fun. Nor are they a real "challenge"! Any tom dick and harry with no life can farm them if they get lucky with atma. I want to know which sad developer thought this was fun.

[Chihaya]

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2014/0...-in-patch-2-2/
Naoki Yoshida states that the Zodiac Weapons are a form of upgraded Relic Weapon which will take a considerable amount of time to complete, and will be upgraded in the form of phases in each patch. Yoshida goes on to mention that not many players will have the first phase completed before the second one launches in 2.25, and that this is a very overtime goal for players to work on and that their viability as future weapons will remain for some time.

If you can't handle the RNG, just don't do it now, there's other things that give you ilvl100 or even higher weapon. It is suppose to be time consuming, and again like all content, once new "phase" comes out old stuff will become easier.

It probably doesn't sound convincing since I do have my atma weapon, but I also did pour about 10hrs into Upper La Noscea before I decided to hop around and sort of follow the JP Atma theory/voodoo, which seemed to work for me to some extent, but not 100%.

[EdwinLi]

Pretty sure it's been said it will be in 2.25. I just wonder how many people "demanding a response" understand it's going to be changed at all.

Only thing we know is Relic quest will be updated per Update. However, until 2.25 hits we don't know quite yet if it will bring anything serious enough to affect current Relic Quests since Yoshi-P only said Relic quest will be updated per Update but as of now he has been very vague with his words so he could mean all Updates or just Major Updates.

How big that update is the determine factor after all and often the not so big updates doesn't have much effect.

[Starlord]

Like someone else said earlier. Some people like it (Like me) and why should they remove the one really fun grindy thing there is in the game when it's optional. Let those who like grinding do it and you do something else you like doing.
The atma farming is one of my favourite parts of the new patch, but I don't do coil 2, yet I don't whine about it being too hard.

It's not hard, nothing is hard about it. It's just time consuming. and by time consuming I mean people with bad luck from the RNG gods. Why can't we have a "Grindy" Step by Step to reach your goal Feature? You still will have your grindiness, just without a blindfold on and hoping you get there. If RNG was a bit more forgiving I be alright with it, but as of right now it's not.

Best of both worlds, instead of RNG have accomplishing goals to work towards ( Some kind of grind w/o a blindfold on, meaning you will know when you will be finished).

I am 99% sure they will raise the drop rate and I can't wait for that to happen so I can actually be sane when doing it :P. However, I wish quests like these could be done with by knowing when you will be done, instead of " I hope I'll be done in 4 hours like player A is but sadly it's taking me 40 hours to be half way done .

[odintius]

It's not hard, nothing is hard about it. It's just time consuming. and by time consuming I mean people with bad luck from the RNG gods. Why can't we have a "Grindy" Step by Step to reach your goal Feature? You still will have your grindiness, just without a blindfold on and hoping you get there. If RNG was a bit more forgiving I be alright with it, but as of right now it's not.

Best of both worlds, instead of RNG have accomplishing goals to work towards ( Some kind of grind w/o a blindfold on, meaning you will know when you will be finished).

Because something you might not like someone else will she doesn't mine the time consuming of a single feature added to the game. Also after which I believe books which you purchase with myth is the Grindy step by step method is the next goal feature correct.

[Starlord]

Because something you might not like someone else will she doesn't mine the time consuming of a single feature added to the game. Also after which I believe books which you purchase with myth is the Grindy step by step method is the next goal feature correct.

So I have to jump through this "hurdle" to reach that thing I like? Can't there be a middle ground that all of us can handle?

[Wicc]

Because I only have this one character right? It took me < 4-500 fates and ~12 hours total to get all the atmas over the course of 5 days. You are obviously doing something wrong. Know what the first thing you're doing wrong is? Complaining about it on the forums instead of being in game actively attempting to get the atma.

Hmmmm. Do you know the definition of RNG?

http://bit.ly/1eJ4W70