The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Ricdeau]

A new caster job would bury the Summoner. There'd be a bunch of Summoner's going to Blue Mage.

Oh please, do explain to us in great detail how another caster job would bury summoner. There's only two caster jobs, two melee jobs, two tank jobs, and two healing jobs so would adding one more of something besides caster (or physical ranged since there's only one right now) bury those too? Sorry, but summoner stands firmly on it's own. I could understand if two jobs were nearly identical, but black mage and summoner are very different.

[Akiza]

Are there summoners dissatisfied with the job, yes, but the same can be said for all the jobs and classes in the game. I won't even argue that there's tweaks to be made, but what you ask for and the claims you make keep making are getting wilder and wilder.

Most players want to just small tweaks to their class/job maybe adjust some traits. The general consensus on the Summoner is it has a fun gameplay style but it's not actually a Summoner that can't be said about other classes/jobs. Summoner's need an overall to their mechanics and be more about using Summoning Magic and less about using diseases.

[SamaelVantas]

I can only take so much downs from a thread.
This one has become over that limit.
Just from one person too.
Deer god why....

[Jediman]

A post of you quoting 10 people is far from "the community all wants change"

SMN is an established class, the Lore of XIV does not allow for what you want, and your heads are too far up your asses to comprehend this. Not to mention compared to the few quotes you have there, there's far more people telling you the opposite in every single thread created.

This is Final Fantasy XIV. Not Final Fantasy III, not IV, not V, not IX, not X and not XI. You might also notice that summoners act differently in every single one of these games, holy shit.

Did you say 10 but missed out the 27 pages in here lol http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...TION%29/page27

Dev already confirmed they are going to work on the future egi. Final fantasy XIV is base on final fantasy series games class names,chocobo,avater names etc I can give a full list what they have added from other final fantasy series games only a fool like you won't understand try to read up more rather then attacking someone that opens a thread because of there class.

You just don't understand that dev have spoken yet you bark like a sheep and can't comprehend what you are saying you want "likes" I can give you but it won't change what the dev have said tho.

[Ricdeau]

Most players want to just small tweaks to their class/job maybe adjust some traits. The general consensus on the Summoner is it has a fun gameplay style but it's not actually a Summoner that can't be said about other classes/jobs. Summoner's need an overall to their mechanics and be more about using Summoning Magic and less about using diseases.

Again, you keep speaking for a large group of people, but you provide no evidence at all. You proclaim that most of the population doesn't like it. I'd beg to differ given there's still plenty of summoners around, and the development team has not made comment on it. Once again, lets travel back in time to 2.1 and now lets look at dragoon, monk, and warrior. You see the difference here? There was a negative outlook on these classes, the development team took action, but summoner has remained pretty intact. So if we just want to ride on anecdotal evidence alone this would lead the conclusion that SE is relatively happy with the state of the class which also means a healthy portion of the playerbase is too. Also more anecdotal evidence tells me that majority of people I know that play summoner are fine with it over the ones that aren't. As is the general consensus of this silly thread too.

See what I did there. I made a lot of claims on other's behalf. Therefore it must be true!

[Jediman]

omg you guys even read the thread I have linked the thread and what the dev have said.

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

[Viridiana]

The general consensus on the Summoner is it has a fun gameplay style but it's not actually a Summoner that can't be said about other classes/jobs.

What? SMN is nowhere near unique in having its players whine about how it isn't a "real" (insert class here). At least 1/3 of the jobs have people complaining about their implementation because they don't understand that a design choice they disagree with isn't the end of the world.

[Jediman]

What? SMN is nowhere near unique in having its players whine about how it isn't a "real" (insert class here). At least 1/3 of the jobs have people complaining about their implementation because they don't understand that a design choice they disagree with isn't the end of the world.

Its DoT class away from Summoner class and the idea comes from all the final fantasy series lets not forget that.

I rather have it as summoner class where you summoner and give orders but thats not gona happen.

[Ricdeau]

omg you guys even read the thread I have linked the thread and what the dev have said.

What does the future design of egis have to do with completely revamping the class? Like OMG, man, did you even read what the guy has been was asking for?

[Jediman]

What does the future design of egis have to do with completely revamping the class? Like OMG, man, did you even read what the guy has been was asking for?

I don't blame him I don't mind it as well because I don't want the DoT class lol

But its not gona happen i just want the egi too look like proper avatars egi thats all