The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Akiza]

Everyone knows if Square were to add another caster job now the Summoner job would be destroyed because a lot of casters overshadow the Summoner even the Black Mage over shadows the Summoner now what will happen when they add the Red Mag the Summoner population would dwindle to nothing. Square can't even add another caster job without killing the Summoner unless they make the Summoner more about summoning. The Arcanist is a channeling class but it dosen't seem like it's channelling much of anything when most people think of channeling they think of witches that can affect the weather the atmosphere and call forth storms , intense winds, earth quakes and he'll fire.

[Alistaire]

Why don't you just accept the fact that everyone disagrees with your outlook, and stop posting? I seriously cannot believe you're not trolling; there's just no way you could possibly ignore that much of what everyone else is saying. And I main SMN on my alt btw. To repeat what several others have said, your ideas are absolutely horrible, and what you say SMN has been in past FF games, it hasn't been. There's really nothing else left to say.

[Exstal]

Everyone knows if Square were to add another caster job now the Summoner job would be destroyed because a lot of casters overshadow the Summoner even the Black Mage over shadows the Summoner now what will happen when they add the Red Mag the Summoner population would dwindle to nothing. Square can't even add another caster job without killing the Summoner unless they make the Summoner more about summoning. The Arcanist is a channeling class but it dosen't seem like it's channelling much of anything when most people think of channeling they think of witches that can affect the weather the atmosphere and call forth storms , intense winds, earth quakes and he'll fire.

..a lot of casters?

# of casters;

1) Summoner
2) Black Mage

[kiraan]

I would prefer them to go another way than overbuffing the egis we have.

I was thinking about the way they told us how dark knight could for exemple comes from gladiator but really modify the base actions to fit the role.

What if, when you invoke an Egi, it modify actions like bio, bio2 and miasma to do something related to the egi you summoned? You could even cast spell, but they would come out from your egi instead of you.

[Eggnook24]

Everyone knows if Square were to add another caster job now the Summoner job would be destroyed because a lot of casters overshadow the Summoner even the Black Mage over shadows the Summoner now what will happen when they add the Red Mag the Summoner population would dwindle to nothing. Square can't even add another caster job without killing the Summoner unless they make the Summoner more about summoning. The Arcanist is a channeling class but it dosen't seem like it's channelling much of anything when most people think of channeling they think of witches that can affect the weather the atmosphere and call forth storms , intense winds, earth quakes and he'll fire.

How about a new casting job where the power of run on sentences kills off interest and brain cells.

[Bombast]

How about a new casting job where the power of run on sentences kills off interest and brain cells.

Already in game.

[Ricdeau]

Everyone knows if Square were to add another caster job now the Summoner job would be destroyed because a lot of casters overshadow the Summoner even the Black Mage over shadows the Summoner now what will happen when they add the Red Mag the Summoner population would dwindle to nothing. Square can't even add another caster job without killing the Summoner unless they make the Summoner more about summoning. The Arcanist is a channeling class but it dosen't seem like it's channelling much of anything when most people think of channeling they think of witches that can affect the weather the atmosphere and call forth storms , intense winds, earth quakes and he'll fire.

I think it's pretty safe to say when people think anything it's not even close to the incoherent gibberish you keep spewing out. This is getting out of hand. How about you trying to make even slightly coherent comments so people can even follow what the hell you're on about. You keep making tons of claims for "most people", but again most of these are unsubstantiated. Are there summoners dissatisfied with the job, yes, but the same can be said for all the jobs and classes in the game. I won't even argue that there's tweaks to be made, but what you ask for and the claims you make keep making are getting wilder and wilder.

[SamaelVantas]

So how bout them blue mages guys?

[Akiza]

So how bout them blue mages guys?

A new caster job would bury the Summoner. There'd be a bunch of Summoner's going to Blue Mage.

[Akiza]

Why don't you just accept the fact that everyone disagrees with your outlook, and stop posting? I seriously cannot believe you're not trolling; there's just no way you could possibly ignore that much of what everyone else is saying. And I main SMN on my alt btw. To repeat what several others have said, your ideas are absolutely horrible, and what you say SMN has been in past FF games, it hasn't been. There's really nothing else left to say.

What are you talking about Summoner is one of the most iconic roles in Final Fantasy and previous Final Fantasy games either they had the Summoner paired with a White Mage or it was a equipped job stone.