The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[JetBrooks]

As stated, it makes sense according to the lore of XIV that summoners do not summon full-on primals. You'd have to answer to the Scions after every fight for sucking up enough aether to summon a primal. That said, of course the egis are not as powerful as a primal, so you don't have ridiculous burst damage. The egi and resulting DOT DPS style make absolutely perfect sense, considering the lore of the game you are playing.

It sounds like you dudes want a caster bard (bursty, pretty sustainable, mobile DPS.... but a caster), if that means blue mage, well then please look forward to it. This job is fine, and freaking awesome.

[Jediman]

Would make sense if the egi did the doting lol

[JetBrooks]

Would make sense if the egi did the doting lol

DOTing is (or should be) a dynamic and involved process, depending on the fight at hand. Giving people the potential to put the most intricate part of their job on auto-pilot seems dumb.

[i2agnarok]

Dude it is better they remove the DoT class on smn and make a new class in the future for DoT and not limit bane ability

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There is an entire thread on why Bane is limited.
I do not understand why all of these threads are "x class has this, I want to be able to do x, too."
Do people not understand that classes have strengths AND weaknesses?

DOTing is (or should be) a dynamic and involved process, depending on the fight at hand. Giving people the potential to put the most intricate part of their job on auto-pilot seems dumb.

Beat me to it.

[Jediman]

Would make sense if the egi did the doting lol

They screwed the story for primals and because of that they have nerfed summoner egi down, maybe they might end up nerfing blm down maybe they lose there magic in the future of the story as a result of that they started using swords and shield. lol

This does not justify why the class can't be played fully as a normal summoner class.

[Seaku]

How is bane limited? No mana cost to get 110 potency per 3 sec on 3 extra targets. That you can the bolster with miasma II and shadowflare (which also slows) and then blizzard II spam while next to the mobs. You're saying you want to make it overpowered by spreading to all enemies? Really? Blm has 100 potency per 2.5 sec buffed with astral fire, I'm not sure how much damage astral fire III gives? 30%? (An experienced blm can surely correct me.) So you want to take away blm's part of the mechanics pie? That sounds quite selfish if you ask me.

As for DoT class, guess what, as you've deduced in other threads the summoner is a DoT and summon class. It does both fairly well imo. Also why can't they make a new DoT class as an alternative to the summoner and keep the dots on summoner? I don't get the problem here. It's not like they'll remove the single target burst of the dragoon to make another single target burst class.

[Jediman]

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There is an entire thread on why Bane is limited.
I do not understand why all of these threads are "x class has this, I want to be able to do x, too."
Do people not understand that classes have strengths AND weaknesses?

by putting DoT class as summoner when they can make a new class for it?

I would opt in for egi rather then stick with DoT class strengths AND weaknesses in egi

[JetBrooks]

A "summoner" in this game doesn't exist, except for groups of beastmen that are subsequently brainwashed by their primals. You wanna become brainwashed every fight?

I think you didn't pay attention to my point. Egis can be put on auto-pilot, and DOTing is the most intricate part of your job. If you have the potential to auto-pilot the most important part of your job, we will have the most unproductive players possible. Pug parties would never let summoners in.

[Ricdeau]

Would make sense if the egi did the doting lol

They screwed the story for primals and because of that they have nerfed summoner egi down, maybe they might end up nerfing blm down maybe they lose there magic in the future of the story as a result of that they started using swords and shield. lol

This does not justify why the class can't be played fully as a normal summoner class.

What? Why would they nerf black mage?

[JetBrooks]

He/she is being bitter and sarcastic.