The reason Summoner needs revamp threads keep popping up

[Ricdeau]

Most players want to just small tweaks to their class/job maybe adjust some traits. The general consensus on the Summoner is it has a fun gameplay style but it's not actually a Summoner that can't be said about other classes/jobs. Summoner's need an overall to their mechanics and be more about using Summoning Magic and less about using diseases.

Again, you keep speaking for a large group of people, but you provide no evidence at all. You proclaim that most of the population doesn't like it. I'd beg to differ given there's still plenty of summoners around, and the development team has not made comment on it. Once again, lets travel back in time to 2.1 and now lets look at dragoon, monk, and warrior. You see the difference here? There was a negative outlook on these classes, the development team took action, but summoner has remained pretty intact. So if we just want to ride on anecdotal evidence alone this would lead the conclusion that SE is relatively happy with the state of the class which also means a healthy portion of the playerbase is too. Also more anecdotal evidence tells me that majority of people I know that play summoner are fine with it over the ones that aren't. As is the general consensus of this silly thread too.

See what I did there. I made a lot of claims on other's behalf. Therefore it must be true!

[Jediman]

omg you guys even read the thread I have linked the thread and what the dev have said.

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

[Viridiana]

The general consensus on the Summoner is it has a fun gameplay style but it's not actually a Summoner that can't be said about other classes/jobs.

What? SMN is nowhere near unique in having its players whine about how it isn't a "real" (insert class here). At least 1/3 of the jobs have people complaining about their implementation because they don't understand that a design choice they disagree with isn't the end of the world.

[Jediman]

What? SMN is nowhere near unique in having its players whine about how it isn't a "real" (insert class here). At least 1/3 of the jobs have people complaining about their implementation because they don't understand that a design choice they disagree with isn't the end of the world.

Its DoT class away from Summoner class and the idea comes from all the final fantasy series lets not forget that.

I rather have it as summoner class where you summoner and give orders but thats not gona happen.

[Alistaire]

Why don't you just accept the fact that everyone disagrees with your outlook, and stop posting? I seriously cannot believe you're not trolling; there's just no way you could possibly ignore that much of what everyone else is saying. And I main SMN on my alt btw. To repeat what several others have said, your ideas are absolutely horrible, and what you say SMN has been in past FF games, it hasn't been. There's really nothing else left to say.

[Akiza]

Why don't you just accept the fact that everyone disagrees with your outlook, and stop posting? I seriously cannot believe you're not trolling; there's just no way you could possibly ignore that much of what everyone else is saying. And I main SMN on my alt btw. To repeat what several others have said, your ideas are absolutely horrible, and what you say SMN has been in past FF games, it hasn't been. There's really nothing else left to say.

What are you talking about Summoner is one of the most iconic roles in Final Fantasy and previous Final Fantasy games either they had the Summoner paired with a White Mage or it was a equipped job stone.

[kiraan]

I would prefer them to go another way than overbuffing the egis we have.

I was thinking about the way they told us how dark knight could for exemple comes from gladiator but really modify the base actions to fit the role.

What if, when you invoke an Egi, it modify actions like bio, bio2 and miasma to do something related to the egi you summoned? You could even cast spell, but they would come out from your egi instead of you.

[Eggnook24]

Everyone knows if Square were to add another caster job now the Summoner job would be destroyed because a lot of casters overshadow the Summoner even the Black Mage over shadows the Summoner now what will happen when they add the Red Mag the Summoner population would dwindle to nothing. Square can't even add another caster job without killing the Summoner unless they make the Summoner more about summoning. The Arcanist is a channeling class but it dosen't seem like it's channelling much of anything when most people think of channeling they think of witches that can affect the weather the atmosphere and call forth storms , intense winds, earth quakes and he'll fire.

How about a new casting job where the power of run on sentences kills off interest and brain cells.

[Bombast]

How about a new casting job where the power of run on sentences kills off interest and brain cells.

Already in game.

[Blitzace]

Well i really do not like SMN at all in XIV. it was my first class, was really excited about it untill i found out it was mostly a DoT class, Thats all fine for people who like that but for me, its a big nono. I played SMN in XI, because i enjoyed how awesome it was(Even though people didn't like them in party's and by some were considered useless untill AB and later stuff) Yet i solo'd NMs that people couldn't even come close to back then. If you knew how to play that class it was a very powerfull solo class, It was awesome just to roam through out vanadiel,(with any class really)

And thats another thing i'm missing in Eorzea, there is really no point in roaming about.