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  1. #1191
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    Lavene Archnandez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    You generally wouldn't support any company then. There's more red-tape towards giving official responses than practically every single player realizes. Unless you've dealt with the public, especially as some sort of representative of a company supplying goods/services to thousands of people (or millions in this case), you really wouldn't understand the dangers of not treading lightly.
    and no answer is also not treading lightly.. when this kind of situation happens, most of a time a delay measure is implemented so as to assure the consumer base that the company have heard and is working internally to a respond.. a RESPOND not SOLUTION
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    Last edited by ArcFinix; 04-16-2014 at 08:40 PM.

  2. #1192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Unless there is a third party with statistical data on server.. i will not believe anything. with PS4 on the launch, it is expected to have user base raises.. and how many are those that convert to PS4? how many of those are actual account? i have friends who buy the game to play it but non of them sub, all of them stop at that 1 month free usage. i have 2 LS of ppl quitting.. i have seen new player at the lower rate than during 2.1...

    of course what i see is not an accurate comparison.. but the news itself have no prove.. it is more of a statement with no validation

    Quoting from the link u gave me..

    It’s actually worth pointing out that this is “accounts registered”, *not* “subscribers”. The two aren’t quite the same thing – a registered account isn’t necessarily paying for the game.
    It does, however, mean that two million discreet copies/account keys have been sold. The game is selling very, very well.
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    Last edited by ArcFinix; 04-16-2014 at 08:41 PM.

  3. #1193
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    Murah Jhida
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    Hmm. My non-tank role queues HAVE been getting longer lately...

    Nah, it's probably just a coincidence.

    Forreal though, the Atma system sucks. Pure RNG, no streak prevention or pseudorandomness. And S-E's RNG already has pretty awful distribution.

    Oh well, at least forming a Twintania group is easy-peasy now. Requires actual skill and is thus fun, too. Makes me wonder why people are still trying to blitz Animus, which requires weeks of tomestones, instead of doing that...
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  4. #1194
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    Latura Skinwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by SublimeIbanez View Post
    Chances are this thread is dieing out because people have just stopped playing this game. I've seen quite a few people leave now and a majority of this could have been prevented by SE actually coming out and saying something on the matter.. Oh well, SE will continue to lose subs if they keep this ideology up.
    Or maybe ppl got their Atmas and stoped crying here lol.
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  5. #1195
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    I got 4 atma and stop, and what concerns me is that there are signi
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  6. #1196
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    Lol, hit reply without finishing, stupid phone, anyway there are significantly less players farming now, in 3 weeks from now, if u did not do a atma u are out of luck cuz no1 will be farming and will have to wait till next patch for nerf.
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    This thread is yummy!
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  8. #1198
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    Lol, hit reply without finishing, stupid phone, anyway there are significantly less players farming now, in 3 weeks from now, if u did not do a atma u are out of luck cuz no1 will be farming and will have to wait till next patch for nerf.
    What does having less people on fates making you unable to do it? I do most of them alone, with my Choco..

    Don't give up; take it as a change from Brayflox HM, and you'll be fine. I'm halfway through it, excited!
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  9. #1199
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    What does having less people on fates making you unable to do it? I do most of them alone, with my Choco..
    FATEs die significantly (every few seconds) faster in a large group than they do alone (3-5 minutes.) With a chance of 2.5%, you need to generate dozens of rolls to make any reasonable progress, be extremely patient, or be extremely lucky. The number and types of FATEs you can do also significantly decreases - level 40+ boss fates are impossible alone.

    So let's estimate that a group clears FATEs about 100-200x as fast, then do some severe correction via the respawn timer - where previous players took one hour to average out around 200 rolls for an Atma, let's say you are taking one hour to average maybe 50 rolls for an Atma. Rough estimate.

    Where people took 60 hours to get their Atma, people now will take up to 240 because of how the system works.
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    Leona Thane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    FATEs die significantly (every few seconds) faster in a large group than they do alone (3-5 minutes.) With a chance of 2.5%, you need to generate dozens of rolls to make any reasonable progress, be extremely patient, or be extremely lucky. The number and types of FATEs you can do also significantly decreases - level 40+ boss fates are impossible alone.

    So let's estimate that a group clears FATEs about 100-200x as fast, then do some severe correction via the respawn timer - where previous players took one hour to average out around 200 rolls for an Atma, let's say you are taking one hour to average maybe 50 rolls for an Atma. Rough estimate.

    Where people took 60 hours to get their Atma, people now will take up to 240 because of how the system works.
    You don't need to finish a fate, only participate. You also don't need gold.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    If it's a boss fate, you lose contribution if the boss resets, meaning if solo, you can't do the hit and run. With mob fates, killing 1-2 mobs is enough.
    Good to know. In that case, go do other FATEs and come back, and engage when there is only a minute or two left and you will get the credit.
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    Last edited by L-D-Omlette; 04-17-2014 at 05:47 AM.

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