Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
Is it fun to drag down 3-7 other people for the sake of your own fun? Serious question since people tend to leave this one out. And I don't mean skipping cutscenes and the like.
This is the exactly the elitist attitude that is the problem. Who is being dragged down on the duty finder when some one is watching cutscenes for the very first time? Who is being dragged down when someone gets to a new dungeon that they have never been to before?

Seriously? What does dragged down even mean?

Why abuse the duty finder to do your speed runs and force 3-7 other players to play it your way? Who is being selfish here?
Why do you assume the 3-7 other players are looking to do speed runs on the duty finder? Who is being foolish here?

The best encounter I had was learning Garuda (not even the hard more or whatever) the first time. Doesn't matter that I went and studied the videos on youtube, or that the other players may or may not. We wiped over and over and finally it clicked for all of us together cleared with 5 minutes remaining. That was epic. Everyone had fun in that one and we all talk about it and laughed about it afterwards. So just what does dragged down mean? Everyone missed a dodge here and there and died, missed an add, lost a rock, etc. If we had 3 other very experienced players and we sped thru it, would it have left a lasting memory? Would it have been more fun? What fun is being dragged down, by having everyone learn in the process? Serious question here? It is NOT always about efficiency?

Does efficiency = fun?