The Duty Finder is not your personal Brayflox Hard myth farming service.

[SummonerSenah]

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I love how you suggest that people who want full runs should use Party Finder, but you also think it's dumb for people to use Duty Finder for speedruns. If you really want speedruns, it makes more sense to create your own party in PF. That way you have control over ilvl and party composition (blm/bard or blm/blm for example). When you go through Duty Finder you're stuck with what you get.

tl ; dr The people who want six minute runs should be the ones using Party Finder.

[Dhalmel]

They should make it so you get credit w/ each boss that dies while you have emnity on it. At the end, credit gets added up, and you get the reward.

That was how FF14's skill points system was during the Tanaaka lead period, it was very broken.

[Arkista]

Had a Tank "DC" today right after the second boss. Lets just say the last boss can be done with 3 ppl.

[SendohJin]

Put all the tomes at the end of the dungeon and you just have people refusing to click accept on a new instance and waiting for a party in progress. They should just make each boss give equal amounts.

that's just fearmongering, Party In Progress would basically never exist in this situation, people would spend hours waiting for a random DC or vote kick.

but splitting myths on all the bosses is better, 10, 15, 25 or 15, 15, 20 will do.

[Makado]

I love how you suggest that people who want full runs should use Party Finder, but you also think it's dumb for people to use Duty Finder for speedruns. If you really want speedruns, it makes more sense to create your own party in PF. That way you have control over ilvl and party composition (blm/bard or blm/blm for example). When you go through Duty Finder you're stuck with what you get.

tl ; dr The people who want six minute runs should be the ones using Party Finder.

Party finder works best for both situations.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I have literally refused to do Brayflox HM after reading this and after experiencing it myself today.

Me and my friend queue up, him as WHM, me as my DRG like always. Run starts, everyone says hi (except the tank of course), we start going, then the tank just runs around flashing EVERYTHING in the first area all the way up until the first coeurl, and me, the bard, and my friend all are spamming our biggest AoEs trying to kill them all, while my friend is frantically trying to heal the tank. We get through that thankfully, and while me and my friend were grumbling about it in FC chat, we still continued on, since we had managed to do that well enough. We continue on, tank AGAIN pulls all the mobs from the Coeurl patrol to the first boss, THEN pulls the boss as well, which started the countdown.


I didn't even realize he'd pulled the boss until I was suddenly locked out and getting beat on by the mobs that got locked out as well. I ended up dying and just went back to the start and waited, while asking the tank if next time he could just announce he was going to do a full pull to the boss area, since NONE of us knew what he was doing until just then. The guy had not spoken a word at all, no "hey guys I wanna speedrun this", no "hey guys I'm gonna pull all the mobs so get ready", just silently goes in and pulls every single mob and then gets one of the dps locked out of the first boss while they struggle to stay alive because my friend's mp is going down fast due to the constant spam heal.

When both me and my friend start pointing out to him WHY it's always a good idea to announce your intentions for the run before it starts, after the tank questions why he'd even need to, he starts going nuts on us like "but why wouldn't you speedrun, that gets you the most myth and soldier fast" and no matter what we told him about WHY you need to at least ANNOUNCE when you're speedrunning, he just kept being a bullheaded idiot about it. I finally kicked him after my friend begged me to in FC chat, and we got a new tank who I thought would be good at first, since he at least said hi when he got in.

Wrong. He also pulled the entire area after the first boss, and tried to tank all of it in a small alcove. Needless to say, the gliders kept hitting my friend, and so he died, which meant no heals, so we all died. He asked the tank to not do that, and the tank began to comply at first, but after two sets of mobs, he just ran around and aggro'd everything again. Had the bard not been popping MP song and TP song when needed, we would have died again from that pull. When we brought this up, the tank was just like "but we didn't". As if that's any excuse?

Seriously, I already dislike tanks on principle since 90% of the ones I've run into in every game before, including this one, have been prima dona drama queens who think they rule the world just because they're a tank. This Brayflox idiocy is making me hate tanks even more, as well as hate even trying to do the run without 3 friends alongside me.

[SummonerSenah]

Party finder works best for both situations.

I can agree with that. But I still think that if you are using Duty Finder or Duty Roulette, you should be prepared for the possibility that it won't be a speedrun, and if that's the case, have the decency to stay the whole run instead of leaving after the second boss.

[L-D-Omlette]

That was how FF14's skill points system was during the Tanaaka lead period, it was very broken.

Didn't play 1.xx. Can you elaborate on how it was broken?

[Makado]

I can agree with that. But I still think that if you are using Duty Finder or Duty Roulette, you should be prepared for the possibility that it won't be a speedrun, and if that's the case, have the decency to stay the whole run instead of leaving after the second boss.

Yeah. I just find DF is usually a mess, you have no idea what your getting into when a PF can be much more clear about intentions. Also you avoid situations like the above posted where people just do stuff without saying anything. I personally do all my DF roulette runs based off what the group wants to do, just ask what everyone wants. Although most people don't do that so thats why ideally you would want to PF especially if your not a tank and controlling your runs.

[Freyar]

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I don't mind speedruns if/when it's announced and everyone has decent gear. (Really, I have a friend who's undergeared for that kind of pull and it just can't be done with limited DPS like that despite how awesome I am as a healer.)

The problem is, people are assuming that everyone is intending to get through content as fast as possible. Hell, the final Castrum run was completely screwed up for me story-wise because people didn't wait for others who were watching the cinematics.

Didn't play 1.xx. Can you elaborate on how it was broken?

It allowed for sup[a]r power leveling.