How often do people actually clear Titan Extreme?

[Versiroth]

The Echo goes up 5% each time you survive at least 3 minutes. Maxing out at 25% after 5 such wipes.

And I call BS on your "We cleared it with 4 people" statement. Unless most of the dead people died right before you beat it. There's no way to manage adds and gaols with only 4 people alive.

[arkived]

Ever since I upgraded to PS4, i've been watching PS3 players take plumes and landslides left and right. Their reaction time is terrible. What I did to combat this was spend the entire fight in Sprint (I play WHM/BLM so its not a TP issue for me), casting it at key moments. It was the only way to dodge on PS3.

I'm wondering, i90 players with full Echo might be able to sacrifice TP for sprinting, especially classes with Invigorate. The phases are pushed so quickly with the heightened DPS (I know I spend the fight in Cleric Stance until the adds) that full rotations shouldnt be an issue, or a priority over dodging.

Thoughts?

[TeaTimeBear]

Ever since I upgraded to PS4, i've been watching PS3 players take plumes and landslides left and right. Their reaction time is terrible. What I did to combat this was spend the entire fight in Sprint (I play WHM/BLM so its not a TP issue for me), casting it at key moments. It was the only way to dodge on PS3.

I'm wondering, i90 players with full Echo might be able to sacrifice TP for sprinting, especially classes with Invigorate. The phases are pushed so quickly with the heightened DPS (I know I spend the fight in Cleric Stance until the adds) that full rotations shouldnt be an issue, or a priority over dodging.

Thoughts?

This is because we see the attacks loading faster. I've seen comparisons of PC vs PS3 and ps3 was always delayed slightly in what showed up on screen.. This is why people are getting hit often on PS3 compared to ps4 and PC.

[kukurumei]

The Echo goes up 5% each time you survive at least 3 minutes. Maxing out at 25% after 5 such wipes.

And I call BS on your "We cleared it with 4 people" statement. Unless most of the dead people died right before you beat it. There's no way to manage adds and gaols with only 4 people alive.

Not very hard. As long as people get raised at the right times.

Going into to heart, we had 7, then we had 6 after landsides, then a tank died which puts it at 5, super bomb killed a healer, so down to 4, Healer LB, back up to 6, and finished it at 5, after another dps died yet again.

[BobbinT]

Titan X wasn't so bad. It's like phrase for dog "his barks is worse than his bites". Yes, early experience on Titan would felt intimidated. But once players familiarize with his movement cycles, he's somewhat bit easier to manage.

I used to follow common players rate of difficulty from easiest to hardest as follows: Garuda - Iffy - Titan.
But now? It's Titan - Garuda - Iffy.

Why?

In Garuda, watching enmity gauge kind of important especially on phase 2 at twin phase. Any dps who scores highest damage would become emergency tank for Chirada on most cases, hoping that healers would back him/her up closely. There's also spiny plume, which hopefully, someone doesn't stupid enough kill it inappropriately.

And Iffy? 1 word: Searing. Oh... and another thing: very long time df queue for DPS.

Compared to those 2: Titan will always has fixed moves and players can dodge easily as long as they work this together. Could still work this out even with latency as long as players know when to pre-empt.

[Versiroth]

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Very plausible. After your tank died (I assume to Mountain Buster?), the off tank switched to MT? Of course, you had the gaolers down by this time. And then when Gaols spawned, you were down to 1 DPS, one healer and 1 tank. So, that god like DPS managed to down both Gaols before sepulcher? Wow , I'm impressed. And then, one of your apparently awesome healers managed to die from super bombs? A little odd since everyone stacks. I guess they were running around doing their victory lap and didn't make it back to stack with everyone else in time? No biggie. And then of course you downed it shortly there after. I mean, you did have a super DPS capable of taking down gaols with only a little help from the tank and no one else....


Yep, very plausible....

[kukurumei]

Compared to those 2: Titan will always has fixed moves and players can dodge easily as long as they work this together. Could still work this out even with latency as long as players know when to pre-empt.

Except for landslide, again with the echo, you can heal through it by telling them to stand at a certain spot due to lag.

1 weight is approx 2.2k damage
1 bomb is approx 4k damage

At high echo, it will take 1 aoe cast from both healers to heal it up to full.

Tank swaps, jails and super bombs, has to be learned, but those are hardly lag related most of the time.

[Traek]

Look up the fight rotations. It never changes. You will always know when a Plume is coming, and always know when a landslide is coming. The only RNG in the fight is what bomb lands first really. Other then that.. just make a PF that will kick people who mess up after 3-4 times. If you go carebear and never kick anyone, your good players will leave and you'll be stuck with the same group wipers till the end of time.

In reality, most of us who can sleep through Titan EX have moved on. We got our equipment (on every job, if not just our main) long ago, and there is no incentive to go back except to help our FC mates. All that is really left is people lagging behind and people who couldn't cut it. That is probably why you are having so much trouble forming good parties.

[kukurumei]

Very plausible. After your tank died (I assume to Mountain Buster?), the off tank switched to MT? Of course, you had the gaolers down by this time. And then when Gaols spawned, you were down to 1 DPS, one healer and 1 tank. So, that god like DPS managed to down both Gaols before sepulcher? Wow , I'm impressed. And then, one of your apparently awesome healers managed to die from super bombs? A little odd since everyone stacks. I guess they were running around doing their victory lap and didn't make it back to stack with everyone else in time? No biggie. And then of course you downed it shortly there after. I mean, you did have a super DPS capable of taking down gaols with only a little help from the tank and no one else....


Yep, very plausible....

You counted wrong. 2 dps +1 tank on super bomb and 2 healers part time on super bomb(titan will not do anything but punch people on super bombs). The healer got tapped for not sitting on the edge when titan jumps.

While you can't have people that don't know titan win titan, that's blaming yourself for not enough practice. It is not hard to teach people to hit stuff, even if they can't dodge well.

And with echo, you have a lot more damage time on titan. (he does not have that much hp)

It seems like you don't know titan ex very well. It can be done with 6 people even before the echo.

[Versiroth]

You counted wrong. 2 dps +1 tank on super bomb and 2 healers part time on super bomb(titan will not do anything but punch people on super bombs). The healer got tapped for not sitting on the edge when titan jumps.

You said 5 were left. 1 tank, two healers and 2 DPS make 5. 1 of those two DPS and one of the two healers would have been gaoled, which leaves you with 1 tank, 1 DPS and 1 Healer to break the two gaols before granite sepulcher. Even if the tank that you said died did so after gaols, that still means that 1 tank, 1 DPS are the only people attacking the gaols. And then, you guys managed to down the super bomb in time with only 2 DPS hitting it....

Your story sounds very exaggerated. If you have to exaggerate to make a point, then it's pretty obvious that your point is pretty poor.

It seems like you don't know titan ex very well.

Says the person that doesn't know Titan will also WoTL during Super bombs....