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    Titan is insanely easy for half the people, the other half just can't do it. Just keep trying to find a pt where you get those who think its insanely easy and stick together with em. Run every week with the same people if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Honestly, what's messed up about this fight is that you literally need everyone the whole fight. In Titan HM, if you at least have the tank, one healer and one or two DPS, you can dodge and out last Titan after heart. In Extreme, if your DPS die, you won't down the gaolers or the gaols themselves fast enough and you wipe. having to have pretty much everyone alive the entire fight is what makes this fight so hard.
    You just basically describes Titan HM back in the day where people were beating it with Darklight or lower. I dare you to go into Titan HM with i65-ish and outlasts Tumults with 3/4 people. Just wait till people outgear Titan EX and it'll be the same thing. Groups with good DPS even at i90 can sell the fight so it's doable. It just takes more gears and skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    You just basically describes Titan HM back in the day where people were beating it with Darklight or lower. I dare you to go into Titan HM with i65-ish and outlasts Tumults with 3/4 people. Just wait till people outgear Titan EX and it'll be the same thing. Groups with good DPS even at i90 can sell the fight so it's doable. It just takes more gears and skills.
    With enough echo in EX, you can do it with 5 people. Though it sorely unfavors tanks and healers. If you loose a healer, threat management kills people. If you loose a tank the stack management eventually kills them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    You just basically describes Titan HM back in the day where people were beating it with Darklight or lower. I dare you to go into Titan HM with i65-ish and outlasts Tumults with 3/4 people.
    You're missing the point.. There are no mechanics in HM that require most people to be alive. It's more of an endurance test after heart. With Extreme, even if you out gear the content, it will still be very hard to deal with gaolers if a tank dies, or kill the gaolers before the gaols spawn if you're losing DPS. And even if the gaolers do die, you'll lose another DPS and healer to gaols if you don't have enough DPS to down them before sepulcher.

    Honestly, 25% echo proves my point for me. Even with that huge buff, I still haven't found a group that could finish it. Gear doesn't help when people panic during mechanics.
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    Last edited by Versiroth; 04-15-2014 at 11:38 PM.

  5. #45
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    People always say its Landslides and Plumes that kill most PF groups >.<

    It's the first set of bombs after heart phase while the adds are up. People freak the F out during that phase and almost ALWAYS take damage. If you find a PF group that clears heart and no one screws up on that first set of bombs, do everything you can to keep that group together for a clear.

    Cool heads prevail in Titan X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    With enough echo in EX, you can do it with 5 people. Though it sorely unfavors tanks and healers. If you loose a healer, threat management kills people. If you loose a tank the stack management eventually kills them.
    Oh yeah, I forgot about the Echo. I was still in the 2.1 mindset somehow.
    @Versiroth, you can still do it without a second tank but people have to adapt well and group up at East, kill the gaolers really fast so the puddles are there and dodge landslide. In 2.1, I had a group that the Titan tank got landslided off so I took over Titan, the DPS gather the adds, LB, get back on titan and we would kill it if the other healer didn't get 90k. I was at 6 stacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    You're missing the point.. There are no mechanics in HM that require most people to be alive. It's more of an endurance test after heart. With Extreme, even if you out gear the content, it will still be very hard to deal with gaolers if a tank dies, or kill the gaolers before the gaols spawn if you're losing DPS. And even if the gaolers do die, you'll lose another DPS and healer to gaols if you don't have enough DPS to down them before sepulcher.

    Honestly, 25% echo proves my point for me. Even with that huge buff, I still haven't found a group that could finish it. Gear does't help when people panic during mechanics.
    Actually... in titan HM, after heart, his stomps increase in numbers. You will not survive on the minimum ilvls pass a certain point.

    And gear does help in titan EX. case in point echo. If you can't dodge weights stacking, with enough echo (pass 30%) you can literally separate and eat the weights, before healing through it.

    And for bombs, you can eat a bomb by standing in the middle of it, and healing through it.

    You're just raging on the wrong things. Because it never occurred to you to do something besides derping. Change tactics if you know brute force is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Actually... in titan HM, after heart, his stomps increase in numbers. You will not survive on the minimum ilvls pass a certain point.

    And for bombs, you can eat a bomb by standing in the middle of it, and healing through it.

    You're just raging on the wrong things. Because it never occurred to you to do something besides derping. Change tactics if you know brute force is possible.
    As someone who has tried this fight a good 50 times since 2.2, I can honestly say that you have no clue what you're talking about. Heck, you don't even know that the echo only goes up to 25%.

    Also, comparing Titan HM with minimum ilvl is reaching. Titan Extreme isn't being failed with the minimum ilevel (67). It's being failed by people that are ilvl 85+ with the echo buff on top of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    With enough echo in EX, you can do it with 5 people. Though it sorely unfavors tanks and healers. If you loose a healer, threat management kills people. If you loose a tank the stack management eventually kills them.
    5 people huh?

    So, when Gaols hit, you'll be down to three. Who exactly is going to be breaking people out of those gaols? Again, you're just making stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    As someone who has tried this fight a good 50 times since 2.2, I can honestly say that you have no clue what you're talking about. Heck, you don't even know that the echo only goes up to 25%.

    Also, comparing Titan HM with minimum ilvl is reaching. Titan Extreme isn't being failed with the minimum ilevel (67). It's being failed by people that are ilvl 85+ with the echo buff on top of that.
    We have cleared it for people using echo serveral times. What does happen is if you can't live long enough the echo does not raise. So low echo is usually a problem with some groups.

    We have cleared it with 3 people dead. 4 at one point.

    No weight stacking for people that can't dodge it, and telling them to stand on a bomb. They can all be healed though.

    And for tanks who can't do super bombs we use healer LB. It's pretty simple.

    Again you're raging on the wrong things. There are heck of stuff more difficult then titan ex, and with echo, easier still.
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