RNG is ruining this game (ATMA QQ post)

[Ninix]

I think RNG is what makes an mmorpg fun. Running dungeons loads of times to get that one drop you want so much is so much fun.

I honestly can't tell if this post is being sarcastic or not.

[Garlyle]

I honestly can't tell if this post is being sarcastic or not.

It might not be. The moment of excitement when you finally get that rare drop you were looking for in an MMORPG is one of the best feelings you can get while playing... but it also comes with a lot of frustration and irritation along the way, so that emotional joy might just be relief

[Kiara1]

I honestly can't tell if this post is being sarcastic or not.

I'm being serious. What would this game be if you knew you would get what you wanted every single time you went in to a dungeon? (Like tomestones but I'm not a big fan of them, it just gives easy gear)
They would have to release new content once a week.

Some people want to do all the content in a week and then complain they don't have anything to do
I want to do all the content for several months and hope the new content isn't release too soon so that I have time enough to do everything I want to do

[fergalicious]

I'm being serious. What would this game be if you knew you would get what you wanted every single time you went in to a dungeon? (Like tomestones but I'm not a big fan of them, it just gives easy gear)
They would have to release new content once a week.

Some people want to do all the content in a week and then complain they don't have anything to do
I want to do all the content for several months and hope the new content isn't release too soon so that I have time enough to do everything I want to do

When you implement random chance into a very low % drop, and then multiply it by 12...the people getting screwed are going to be getting very, very very, very very screwed.

My complaint with the system is not that it takes too long or is mindless and boring...I hate it because it is unfair. Surely there is a more fair way to make the quest take months, rather than just making it take months for those with bad dice.

[Doo]

My complaint with the system is not that it takes too long or is mindless and boring...I hate it because it is unfair.

I'm the exact opposite. I hate it because its mindless and boring. RNG in Leviathan is okay with me but for Fates it's zzzzz.

[KyahAlmasy]

D:

Yeah, I haven't even really tried because of how difficult everyone is saying it is. Not really worth my time. >.<

[Araeya]

I hate it because it is unfair.

It seems that many in these forums don't actually understand the definition of "unfair". So much complaining that things aren't "fair". Let me just help you out with the definition of "fair".

1. "Marked by impartiality and honesty : free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism"
2. "Conforming with the established rules : consonant with merit or importance"

In the context of Atma farming, the RNG is absolutely "fair". Just because a random number is generated faster for one person than another based upon an impartial code, that does not make the process unfair. So, please, don't ask for a fairer system. It wouldn't help. If you'd prefer to do 50 fates per week for three months, instead, ask for that. However, this throwing around of the word "fair" in these forums is ridiculous. It's become synonymous with "I want my stuff faster and to be attained more easily."

luck and chance don't really bring anything to the table other than to those who are overly self inflated and feel the need to show off.

Anyone who shows off something attained by luck or chance is an idiot, and most people who have good RNG luck aren't self-inflated and don't show off and are instead just happy/relieved they attained what they were working toward, so relying on that argument is also ridiculous. And it makes you look like someone who can't have a point of view without insulting people he/she doesn't know, which doesn't really help your case in the slightest.

[Sanris]

It seems that many in these forums don't actually understand the definition of "unfair"...

But the definition you gave, "free from prejudice or favoritism," directly contradicts what you said. "Just because a random number is generated faster for one person than another"... Well, that's just it. That's basically the definition of unfair (in English). One person receives something differently than another person regardless of their input.

You're confusing "fair roll" in statistics and probability (where each outcome is equally as likely) with a fair game (where the rules are standard for each player). In the atma system, the game "reward" (the atma) is unevenly distributed among the players. In other words, one person's effort will garner a reward while the same effort from a different player will not. Although a perfect RNG is "fair," the delegation of rewards based on a RNG is not.

[Jinko]

Anyone who shows off something attained by luck or chance is an idiot, and most people who have good RNG luck aren't self-inflated and don't show off and are instead just happy/relieved they attained what they were working toward, so relying on that argument is also ridiculous. And it makes you look like someone who can't have a point of view without insulting people he/she doesn't know, which doesn't really help your case in the slightest.

You are the person who called them idiots not me, so don't point fingers for name calling.

That being said I have seen many people both on these forums and in game who were quick to show off their Atma's and Animus weapons.