atma drop rates

[TheSL]

I'm mostly annoyed with the RNG because the rest of the game has been easy to set aside a couple hours around my kids to get stuff done, but here it just feels like I'm grinding endlessly for no progression to the next relic upgrade. Not everyone is a college kid or whatever with 40+ hrs of disposable free time each week.

[Teack]

The atma fate system is fine. Like stated previously you can get a weather weapon or get the tidal weapon if u want something quick. If there is no challenge its no fun. i grinding fates for 12 hours and got all 12.

Exactly where is the challenge in doing 5 million lv 12 fates?

[skho01]

I'm mostly annoyed with the RNG because the rest of the game has been easy to set aside a couple hours around my kids to get stuff done, but here it just feels like I'm grinding endlessly for no progression to the next relic upgrade. Not everyone is a college kid or whatever with 40+ hrs of disposable free time each week.

Couldn't agree more. I get that they want to put out enough things to do for the user base until the next content patch. Frankly, this grind fest is not content nor is it a challenge. It is nothing but lazy/poorly thought out design. In fact, this trajectory is deviating very far from the initial design to promote having multiple class/jobs. It is essentially forcing people with or without 40hrs of free time a week to place an emphasis on one class. The initial progression methodology of locking people out via a difficult encounter (then Titan HM) was brilliant. More of that, less of this. Please!

[glitterati]

probably one of the most thought through observational comments i've seen. kudos sir, you hit the nail on the head.

[SaikaSyvari]

I typed an essay after todays... attempts to get another Atma but we have a 1k character limit on here, so I'll link my Lodestone Blog (which has a 3k limit).

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../blog/1067862/

Feel free to comment on there, I think I have a few valid points and I'm looking at it from multiple points of view in the big picture.

Couldn't agree more. I get that they want to put out enough things to do for the user base until the next content patch. Frankly, this grind fest is not content nor is it a challenge. It is nothing but lazy/poorly thought out design. In fact, this trajectory is deviating very far from the initial design to promote having multiple class/jobs. It is essentially forcing people with or without 40hrs of free time a week to place an emphasis on one class. The initial progression methodology of locking people out via a difficult encounter (then Titan HM) was brilliant. More of that, less of this. Please!

Titan HM was a good roadblock, I got stuck there because of other people not being able to get past it. All it is when you look back is a 12 minute fight that is quite simple and easy to predict - I agree completely with your comment.

[Kurosawa]

I believe a better way to roll this out would have been 12 Zodiac based monsters. You fight them the same way Dhorme Chimera and Hydra are. BEFORE that, you have to go out and do FATEs with your Zenith weapon. As you do, it builds a random amount of "charges," and after, say, 200 or so charges or something like that, it will be fully charged and you can fight one of the Zodiacs. Defeat it, and you get that monster's Atma. Rinse, repeat. Still a bit timesink-ish, BUT it doesn't completely rely on BS luck and makes you put in work with the content to get the job done. I could live with that model, but this totally random garbage isn't fun or challenging. And yes, there are other weapons, but I want to progress the one I spent months earning in the first place, and don't feel playing the lottery is the best approach to doing it.

[Nicobo]

If there is nothing wrong, after this 12 Zodiac FATE grind, why not have another 88 Constellation FATE grind for next part.

[SaikaSyvari]

So I just got Atma of the Scorpion to drop after trying to get it for four days. Was 5 kills off my challenge log for my chocobo so did another FATE to finish that. Got another one drop right after the first... What the hell is that about o.O

[skho01]

I believe a better way to roll this out would have been 12 Zodiac based monsters. You fight them the same way Dhorme Chimera and Hydra are. BEFORE that, you have to go out and do FATEs with your Zenith weapon. As you do, it builds a random amount of "charges," and after, say, 200 or so charges or something like that, it will be fully charged and you can fight one of the Zodiacs. Defeat it, and you get that monster's Atma. Rinse, repeat. Still a bit timesink-ish, BUT it doesn't completely rely on BS luck and makes you put in work with the content to get the job done.

I agree with this. At least its a "world boss" that require some kind of coordination. Alternatively, they could lock it behind Thornmarch (Ex) / Levi (Ex) per weapon and some form of tomestone req. At least that'll give people incentives to run those encounters again. The second portion of book grinding sucks too, but at least its slightly more manageable.

[skho01]

So I just got Atma of the Scorpion to drop after trying to get it for four days. Was 5 kills off my challenge log for my chocobo so did another FATE to finish that. Got another one drop right after the first... What the hell is that about o.O

The RNGesus answered your prayers.