Is Hydaelyn a primal?

[LaralnKornera]

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I was wondering when someone in the thread would say this, thank you

[Gaddes]

We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.

We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.

Would be a good explanation as to why all we can ever do is "stoically nod" against our will. We certainly have little to no freedom in any of the cutscenes/plot.

[Enkidoh]

Would be a good explanation as to why all we can ever do is "stoically nod" against our will. We certainly have little to no freedom in any of the cutscenes/plot.

As if that's not the first time the player character is nothing but a passive spectator - FFXI did this too (and it was even worse, they literally stood there and said nothing every time). Yet FFXI had nothing even remotely similar to FFXIV's plot device of tempering and Primals, pretty much blowing this theory out of the water. A player character being a passive, silent protagonist has been a common trope in many Square games in the past (*cough* Chrono Cross *cough cough*) so this isn't an exception.

[TheUltimate3]

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Fair enough. But the conspiracy theorist nut-job in me tells me that the only reason we know this is because the Mothercrystal basically told us.

I mean, this could go back, way back to before the adventurers of Eorzea were even a concept on the planet. If you want to classify the primals as their own separate faction of godlike creatures because they tend to be evil, I could still see Hydaelyn as something similar in concept and methods, though instead of tempering, granting the Echo and (in our case) casually nudging us along the path she/he/it desires.

[DracotheDragon]

in my opinion i say hydalyn is a primal a primal of light while Zodiark could be a primal of dark and the twelve might be primals of concept sort of like the good king moggle mob who isn't a primal but can come into physical form due to the faith of his moogles (with erosions being the ones providing the faith for the twelve to manifest)

[RowanLauron]

All I remember is during our first encounter with Ifrit at the beginning of the story he said something about us belonging to another. This was when be was trying to temper us before the fight. So in a way, I'd say yes. We're tempered, but I don't think it's at the level the other primals are (Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, and Ramuh). It's not as fanatical.

[Bigpurpleharness]

I'm going to guess that since Hydaelyn is a giant damn crystal and this is a final fantasy that she is the singular entity to which all life on Eorzea returns and comes forth from. I would liken her closer to a God than a primal, although I'm sure primals and her have some common characteristics. Then again, humans share certain characteristics with trees, that doesn't make them human.

[Jinko]

Isn't Hydaelyn the planet itself?, I guess that every time a Primal is summoned it removed the Aether from the planet, I assume we are on a mission to return the Aether "to the lifestream".

In a couple of the cutscene the Ascian's suggest that Hydaelyn and all life is doomed because the primals are slowly killing her.

[RyuDragnier]

T7 of coil would beg to differ.

I said ACTIVELY, as in going out of their way to get them. That one came to Bahamut due to the player's actions in the finale of 1.0, remember? Bahamut didn't do a damn thing to pull him there...or the other one.

[TeaTimeBear]

I said ACTIVELY, as in going out of their way to get them. That one came to Bahamut due to the player's actions in the finale of 1.0, remember? Bahamut didn't do a damn thing to pull him there...or the other one.

It's different though

Nael the original is gone, Bahamut didn't temper his female copy rather he reconstructed the last remaining remnants of Nael. The copy was born through Bahamut so she never entirely had a her own will without some of his influence.. Being his creation and all, there's never any sign of her regarding Bahamut with respect based off what I've read.

Hydaelyn is not a primal. She is the goddess of the world in which we dwell. Just like altana, zodiark is also a god. And with the weakening of Hydaelyn within our world he grows stronger. It is through this he will make a return.

There are gods and then there are primals, you select a god with whom your char is affiliated with when you make your character. Said gods and goddesses come from Hydaelyn. Please do not mistake the mother crystal for a primal.