Is Hydaelyn a primal?

[KyahAlmasy]

It's just, she's referred to as a primal by Ifrit, and we collect crystals for her much like the Beastmen do to power up their primals.

Are we tempered by hydaelyn? o.O

[lololink]

We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.

[TheUltimate3]

We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.

We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.

[Obysuca]

We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.

So she tells us to stand in our inn, que up for dungeons, cap sold, never talk to anyone? :P

[Mimilu]

So she tells us to stand in our inn, que up for dungeons, cap sold, never talk to anyone? :P

That...Actually makes a lot of sense. >A>()

[Gaddes]

We don't know what hydaelyn is exactly she has some kind of tempering ability, linked to the echo that protect us from other primals, but don't seem( to be able ? )to control us.

We could very well believe we have freedom of choice only because our master tells us we do.

Would be a good explanation as to why all we can ever do is "stoically nod" against our will. We certainly have little to no freedom in any of the cutscenes/plot.

[Enkidoh]

Would be a good explanation as to why all we can ever do is "stoically nod" against our will. We certainly have little to no freedom in any of the cutscenes/plot.

As if that's not the first time the player character is nothing but a passive spectator - FFXI did this too (and it was even worse, they literally stood there and said nothing every time). Yet FFXI had nothing even remotely similar to FFXIV's plot device of tempering and Primals, pretty much blowing this theory out of the water. A player character being a passive, silent protagonist has been a common trope in many Square games in the past (*cough* Chrono Cross *cough cough*) so this isn't an exception.

[Tupsi]

If they follow the creativity of FFXI she could actually have a physical manifestation beyond just being the planet or Mothercrystal.

[Delsus]

from what I have seen it seems that she is the giant crystal in the flow of aether below Eorzea, only by our contact have we been given the power of the echo and the immunity to tempering (remember this happens at the start of the story, even 1.0 from the "hear, feel, think, which is Hydaelyn" But I don't think she is a primal as we know them, the closest thing we worship to the primals is the twelve, as they can be summoned, and given at least a partial corporeal form as seen in the end of an era, and was a big part of the end of the 1.0 story. It's also touched upon in the story when some from Little Ala Mhigo wanted to summon Rhalgr that if completely summoned the twelve could even posses the power to temper. So yeah I don't think Hydaelyn is a primal as we know them but perhaps something more than them.

[KyahAlmasy]

from what I have seen it seems that she is the giant crystal in the flow of aether below Eorzea, only by our contact have we been given the power of the echo and the immunity to tempering (remember this happens at the start of the story, even 1.0 from the "hear, feel, think, which is Hydaelyn" But I don't think she is a primal as we know them, the closest thing we worship to the primals is the twelve, as they can be summoned, and given at least a partial corporeal form as seen in the end of an era, and was a big part of the end of the 1.0 story. It's also touched upon in the story when some from Little Ala Mhigo wanted to summon Rhalgr that if completely summoned the twelve could even posses the power to temper. So yeah I don't think Hydaelyn is a primal as we know them but perhaps something more than them.

Anyone tempered by a primal is immune to the tempering of another primal, hence Ifrit's confusion when he is unable to temper us. And the crystals gives the primals the power to exist in our world, much like Hydaelyn needs that same very power to come forth and help us in our time of need. But I guess it's hard to really know until they explain further.

It would be very interesting to know if she is using us, and the Arcons know of this and are trying to prevent it. It would sort of be like a red herring.