2.2 has sucked all the fun out of the game...

[MrEzekial]

you wanna waste time being bored?
you wanna waste time having fun?

Exactly! The grinds are not even the least bit fun. I think the books are ok, but everything else is terrible.

[Taruranto]

The majority of players in this game can't even try Leviathan because they are locked out of it being stuck on titan ex.

Then get good and do Titan Exe, ffs. They even added echo buff so you can go there under-geared.

Jesus, it's just 1 freacking fight. You think that's hard? Try doing CoP.

[Kimikryo]

Uh? The only content that is really "Locked out" is the new coil, since it requires a very skilled and organized team.

If you think battles like Leviathan aren't casual, then you have no idea what a true hardcore experience is.

Unless you beat in FFXI the following (while still in Lvl 75 time) .. just to mention some:
Pandemonium Warden, Absolute Virtue, Each and every VHNM that was conisdered hard ... and to certain extend Dynamis Xarcabard, Dynamis in CoP areas, finished Aegis/Gjallerhorn
You neither have an idea what "true" hardcore experience is.

Oh and CoP Airship fight, was annoying, but not as annoying as any Titan encounter.

For a lot of people in this game Titan Ex and also Titan HM are hardcore and very far away from casual. Not having done Leviathan yet, I wouldn't be surprised if some would consider him too Hardcore

In FFXIV the idea of Hardcore is different in almost everyone. Come on Atma farming isn't hardcore .. it is just tedious

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That said, I too feel 2.2 has kinda sucked out the fun. But not because Atma farming is annoying. Not because certain encounters only can be done when Titan Ex has been cleared.
Everything pre 2.2 feels even more cookie cutter than before. People where before 2.2 quite nasty when it came to coil drops. Now 1-5 is a "Well at least I cleared it 1oo times" because people greed on everything

The community became even more toxic..... or maybe it's just balmung.

[silentwindfr]

the trouble with the 2.2, if they have gone from a game open, that allows a large portion of the community try stuff to a model that only emphasis on hardcore and raider player leaving all the other out... hoping they will be happy with the content of the 2.0-2.1.... why most of the player will be happy to see that SE simply want to satisfy something like 5-10% of the community? it's stupid.

they try to please the wrong part of the community. the worst is this part of the community have already destroy levi ex... mog ex... BC2 t6-7-8 and even get animus... after less of 2 week. what the point? before the end of the first month T9 will have fall and this same part of the community that was complaining that the game was casual and that they had nothing to do...will complain one more time because the game will be too casual and they have nothing to do.
because most of the hardcore and raider... either have tons of play time or focus solely on one aspect of the game. why try to please them? i means it's impossible to please them! they will always find a way extremely efficient to get what they want really fast. like the 2 boss farming of brayflox.

this patch was made for please a part of the community that will never be happy whatever you do, whatever you trying to accomplish they will always complain at sometimes that they have nothing to do.

Yoshida have said in interview that they try to balance the time spend for allow big player to stilll have something to do... sadly by doing this they make most of the playerbase be stuck for age for get to the same point. it's an error to even take in account the hardcore gamer into the balance... since the time spend in the game is too important for be counter.

[Heroicbandit]

I never really played WoW that much. But didn't they start losing subscribers after they made everything more accessible to everyone? I.e. During Wotlk.

Yes and no. They plateaued during WotLK. They've also been around for about 10 years and when they're still nearly 8 million strong, it's very much healthy. Their approach to content now is more or less of an Easy(Raid Finder) Medium(Standard Raid) and Hard(Hardmode Raid) for those that play. Of course Hardmode players get the highest item level loot and deservedly so but at least those that are less skilled at the game can still run the content and get some sort of reward for doing it. Cater to all. Let the pros brag about their hard earned accomplishments and let the less skilled enjoy the game at their own level without roadblocking. Win win for everyone.

[Jinko]

Then get good and do Titan Exe, ffs. They even added echo buff so you can go there under-geared.

Jesus, it's just 1 freacking fight. You think that's hard? Try doing CoP.

Apples and Oranges, CoP was hard for different reasons, not because of latency and lag effecting players standing in AoE zones.

Echo buff does nothing if you are knocked off the edge because you thought you were out of a landslide when in actual fact you weren't.

[Vondoomervil]

Sums up the new generation of gamers. Just want everything handed to them on a silver platter.

[Jon_00]

Grinding is a part of MMOs. Deal with it.

Grinding can be fun, if you find a group of nice people and make some fun out of it. Also, don't grind for hours on end because any task that's repetitive gets boring quick. Mix things up between grinds, and I don't mean find something else to do in ARR, play another game for a few hours. Nobody is forcing you to grind every hour of every day.

[silentwindfr]

Sums up the new generation of gamers. Just want everything handed to them on a silver platter.

the new generation of player want challenging and fun stuff to do... not mindless grind unrewarding.
grind is the level 0 of the difficulty. no real skill asked, no real fun, no real challenge... it's something for the people that don't want to get into challenge.

[Fynlar]

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of 2.2 either. I'm gated out of most of the new content. All I can really do is farm a crapton more myths for gear that's now out of date.

Then get good and do Titan Exe, ffs. They even added echo buff so you can go there under-geared.

Echo does pretty much nothing for Titan EX. Gear barely matters either, because anything that damages you aside from stomps will usually kill you outright. I'm i90; I'm sure plenty of other people doing the fight with me are i90; Titan doesn't care.

Jesus, it's just 1 freacking fight. You think that's hard? Try doing CoP.

Nothing in CoP gave me as much trouble as this fight has.