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  1. #41
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroicbandit View Post
    They should take it from Blizzard who's said that this isn't a sustainable business model. When you alienate all but 5-10% of the player population from experiencing new content by making it inaccessible, you're not only wasting resources as a company, but potentially losing subscribers who feel like they aren't getting anywhere.
    ^ this. This game has always been marketed as a casual game. Then 2.2 comes and locks out 90% of the players from the new content. Good job SE keeping the top 10% happy and giving them something to brag about. The other 90% will just contemplate quitting in the meantime.
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  2. #42
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    Would say there is a middle missing in content, because of how Ilevel is atm it's I guess perceived as two easy or two hard. Two easy being the 3 new HM dungeons, even with the lag against the Diabolos boss it was still easily beatable granted it did take more time and the brayflox dungeon HM is a bit of a joke.

    Then there is Coil which is more difficult however it's less accessible in terms of only being able to do the content a few times ago. While we have Crystal Tower that may act as a middle between these difficulties, it's raid concept and the fact you can't exactly go with your own group doesn't give it the feel of a community/FC based content.

    The way they tuned the ilevel for the latest dungeons is a step to small considering that the soldier tomes allow one to obtain i100 gear, so in essence you are entering an ilevel 55 dungeon with the ability to grant you i70(loot drops) i90(mytho tokens) and i100(soldier token) drops.

    While they have found a good balance in terms of loot drop and distribution the difficulty curve is very skewed atm at least when it comes to potential rewards.

    With 3 dungeons released they could make them more stepping stones rather than all being il55 such as
    Brayflox HM=75 tomes, 10 soldier, i70 gear drop il55 requirement
    Hatalia HM=50 tomes, 45 soldier, i70 gear drops, i65 requirement
    Lost City=75 mytho, 45 soldier(25 mytho if soldier is capped). i70 gear drops(no darklight gear), i70/75 requirement

    In this sense variety is offered, a player could focus on getting more mytho tomes in an easier dungeon while gearing up to 70 or focus getting a balance amount of tomes and gear or when they become strong enough can tackle the "toughest" of the new dungeons and be granted with the ability to gain more mytho tomes if they capped soldier.

    It would at least grant more incentive to try the other dungeons since as it stands now the only reason to do one over the other mainly atm is to complete the atma books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    The other 90% will just contemplate quitting in the meantime.
    I guess it's the casuals turn to doom and gloom.
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    There are many people doing new coil, levi and mog ex, you see tons of party finder groups for levi ex and mog all day since there is no lockout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold_Jacobson View Post
    This is how things are going to play out:
    1. You are not really quitting, and you are just letting out some frustrations. Your friends really didn't even quit either, you just keep talking to each other, "Man, we should quit." But end up not.
    2. You are going to see people in here respond how no one cares if you leave or not. You will argue with them.
    3. You go back to playing and create another thread about threatening to quit after the next patch.

    In the end though, no one, absolutely no one cares if you leave. If this patch "Sucked all the fun out of the game" then you weren't going to be around much longer anyway.
    I usually just ignore offending and disrespectful comments like yours but I'm gonna clarify my intend here...


    I posted this thread in the hope to send a message to SE what some people (and I know many) are not happy with the direction they took for this patch.
    From my 8 man static, 2 deleted their character for good (1 even restored it through customer support but ended up deleting it again after a week) and 2 cancelled their subscription... Others not in my static have also stopped playing. So no, it's not just a made up story.
    As for me quitting, I know people don't care and I don't care whether people care or not. I was never trying to get pity from the community.
    I am though trying to let SE know that they are losing customers because of design decision that people don't approve and hopefully through this thread collect comments from other people that relate to my situation. A lot of people have something to complain about this patch so, this is a customer feedback to SE that I'm sharing to other people who'd want to chime.
    If SE is pushing away fans of the game that have been playing daily for hours since day one, then I want them to know.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroicbandit View Post
    They should take it from Blizzard who's said that this isn't a sustainable business model. When you alienate all but 5-10% of the player population from experiencing new content by making it inaccessible, you're not only wasting resources as a company, but potentially losing subscribers who feel like they aren't getting anywhere.
    I never really played WoW that much. But didn't they start losing subscribers after they made everything more accessible to everyone? I.e. During Wotlk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    ^ this. This game has always been marketed as a casual game. Then 2.2 comes and locks out 90% of the players from the new content. Good job SE keeping the top 10% happy and giving them something to brag about. The other 90% will just contemplate quitting in the meantime.
    Uh? The only content that is really "Locked out" is the new coil, since it requires a very skilled and organized team.

    If you think battles like Leviathan aren't casual, then you have no idea what a true hardcore experience is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkyo View Post
    The crafting bench would be cool to make but if lvl 50 crafter could benefit from it since the 3 stars take a lot of CP.
    I actually love the new patch, but I totally agree on this one. Whose idea was it exactly to make a 3 star piece of furniture that requires a myth material to make, thus really requiring not just a lvl 50 crafter but a high end lvl 50 crafter to make, NOT benefit the person making it? as such, its totally useless. either make it pure vanity (ie benefit to no one), or make it benefit everyone. otherwise its kinda a slap in the face.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Uh? The only content that is really "Locked out" is the new coil, since it requires a very skilled and organized team.

    If you think battles like Leviathan aren't casual, then you have no idea what a true hardcore experience is.
    The majority of players in this game can't even try Leviathan because they are locked out of it being stuck on titan ex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cearka View Post
    I actually love the new patch, but I totally agree on this one. Whose idea was it exactly to make a 3 star piece of furniture that requires a myth material to make, thus really requiring not just a lvl 50 crafter but a high end lvl 50 crafter to make, NOT benefit the person making it? as such, its totally useless.
    I actually don't think it's a problem with things like that. Crafting and gathering has always been a service that you sell to others.
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