2.2 has sucked all the fun out of the game...

[Gold_Jacobson]

I've never seen a thread like this before...

This is how things are going to play out:

1. You are not really quitting, and you are just letting out some frustrations. Your friends really didn't even quit either, you just keep talking to each other, "Man, we should quit." But end up not.
2. You are going to see people in here respond how no one cares if you leave or not. You will argue with them.
3. You go back to playing and create another thread about threatening to quit after the next patch.

In the end though, no one, absolutely no one cares if you leave. If this patch "Sucked all the fun out of the game" then you weren't going to be around much longer anyway. So, dramatic.
Like everyone else, I don't care if you leave or not. Just kinda fun to post in these types of threads everyonce in a while and let the quitter know that we know they are full of it most of the time and if they do go through with quitting, whoopie doo.

[Taruranto]

This patch felt one step right, 2 steps behind. The books are a wonderful addition for long-time content, but they are gated behind the worst mmorpg design of all time (FATE atma garbage)

Levi exe is fun, but it's basically the only primal people do. They made Mog useless by giving him a level 100 reward. Greg fight also felt like a waste, sure, all the reference were hilarious, but it was really a waste of resources. No difficulty, no reward. It should have been on par with Ultima-Ex when it came to difficulty. And maybe give people a nice memento, even if just vanity stuff (Greg armor? Earing? Minion? Anything!).

And yeah, crafters kinda got the middle fingers. A lot of stuff to craft! Good! Hard stuff to craft! Even better, the market won't be crowed like before... but then they killed it by making crafted gear ridicule underpowered.

[UBERHAXED]

They made Mog useless by giving him a level 100 reward.

Hmm... Not sure if trolling.

[Hyrist]

But why would you need 110 gear outside of the the raid that supplies it? Makes sense that you get gear in the place that you will need it in. And lol at the part of using gil for ilvl 110 gear. Gil sellers would have a field day.

Who said 110? I said 100. Have fun with that reading comprehension.

And the point about 110 gear outside of the dungeon is to allow entry for those who are trying to get INTO the raid. Having it the way it is now puts too much emphasis on ilvl, exacerbated by the requirement of ilvl on raids. This mechanic, the way it stands, fragments the playerbase rather than unifies it - all for the sake of pride and bragging rights.

You say "It can be done in ilvl90." But those who have achieved that are the absolute best of the best when it comes to this game - to the point that one such group was selling Raven Nevermore runs in 1.23. You can't judge average player base performance and gear requirements on the absolute best players in the game, that's idiotic. And Coil 8 has a very, very limited number of players clearing it legitimately. (2 groups as of April first, remember that.) And all 110 Armor pieces from Masterwork is locked behind that.

But all of that is moot - endgame should have been more expansive by this point and it's not. So the playerbase is being punished by the poor priority planning of the development crew.

[Taruranto]

Hmm... Not sure if trolling.

Hurr hurr

Considering the ammount of problems you have to get through to get the reward (Memorize the fight, find a party, win it, win the RNG)... yeah? It's not even BiS since it's a level 100 item and you can get level 100 items with tomes. Ultimately it will be discharged for other items in the same patch.

[Eekiki]

We'll see if this is a long-term change or not, but everyone in my FC has something to be upset about this patch more, than they are cheerful about other things. That's not a good sign.

We're not having fun with this. There are ways to make long-term investments entertaining, and this wasn't it.

Really? EVERYONE? Every? Single? Person? Are you SURE you aren't exaggerating?

Also: YOU'RE not having fun with this. Not we. You speak for yourself. And that's fine. If it isn't fun for you, it isn't fun for you.

[Hyrist]

Really? EVERYONE? Every? Single? Person? Are you SURE you aren't exaggerating?

Also: YOU'RE not having fun with this. Not we. You speak for yourself. And that's fine. If it isn't fun for you, it isn't fun for you.

I have a small FC. I can speak for twelve people I speak with regularly. Again, everyone in my FC has at least one major thing to complain about when it comes to this patch.

It's rare that I speak beyond myself, when I do I take care that I'm speaking about what I know of. Please stop making personal attacks against people you don't know.

When I say we I speak only for those I know closely enough to do so. I know many can't make that sort of call about their FC, but that's the advantage of a small group of friends who play closely together.

[UBERHAXED]

You say "It can be done in ilvl90." But those who have achieved that are the absolute best of the best when it comes to this game - to the point that one such group was selling Raven Nevermore runs in 1.23. You can't judge average player base performance and gear requirements on the absolute best players in the game, that's idiotic. And Coil 8 has a very, very limited number of players clearing it legitimately. (2 groups as of April first, remember that.) And all 110 Armor pieces from Masterwork is locked behind that.

So what you're saying is, only good players can get good gear by clearing difficult fights. I have no problem with that. And 1 week after launch we didn't have any groups on T5 so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. In fact, you make yourself look like an idiot who expects every piece of content to be cleared by everyone by the end of the first week.

Hurr hurr

Considering the ammount of problems you have to get through to get the reward (Memorize the fight, find a party, win it, win the RNG)... yeah? It's not even BiS since it's a level 100 item and you can get level 100 items with tomes. Ultimately it will be discharged for other items in the same patch.

All other level 100 gear is progression locked. So...

[Hyrist]

So what you're saying is, only good players can get good gear by clearing difficult fights. I have no problem with that. And 1 week after launch we didn't have any groups on T5 so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. In fact, you make yourself look like an idiot who expects every piece of content to be cleared by everyone by the end of the first week..

Again, putting words into my mouth. You need to stop that. It's not even worth correcting you as you're making me doubt your credibility to actually reading and comprehending the complaints being made.

[UBERHAXED]

Again, putting words into my mouth. You need to stop that. It's not even worth correcting you as you're making me doubt your credibility to actually reading and comprehending the complaints being made.

It's pretty obvious that they want the hardest content only clearable by the best players. If there are ways to get gear to outside of the raid, then you are allowing players to compensate lack of skill with gear, which clearly (based on this patch) is not what they are trying to accomplish.