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    Im but a low level monk, but in making the comparison between monk and dragoon I havent seen a few things mentioned. This is all theorycrafting, let me know if Im missing something.
    1. Mnk has better party support through enhanced mantra and the INT reduction on dragon kick. Enhanced healing and reduced boss damage vs buffing one of the weakest dps? Mnk seems to play better with others.
    2. Mnk has more damage multipliers over dragoon, leading to increased limit break damage. Most parties want to bring one melee dps for lb, so why not the one that can push more damage?
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaelFeist View Post
    Im but a low level monk, but in making the comparison between monk and dragoon I havent seen a few things mentioned. This is all theorycrafting, let me know if Im missing something.
    1. Mnk has better party support through enhanced mantra and the INT reduction on dragon kick. Enhanced healing and reduced boss damage vs buffing one of the weakest dps? Mnk seems to play better with others.
    2. Mnk has more damage multipliers over dragoon, leading to increased limit break damage. Most parties want to bring one melee dps for lb, so why not the one that can push more damage?
    Limit Break damage is purely based on the weapon damage values of every party member. It is entirely independent of the player that uses it, except for determining what type of limit break to use based on said player's job.

    That is why in a party with a well geared MNK/DRG and a relatively poorly geared MNK/DRG, it is customary to have the lesser-geared one do the LB. If deciding between a MNK and a DRG, it is customary to let the DRG do it, so the MNK can maintain GL3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    That is why in a party with a well geared MNK/DRG and a relatively poorly geared MNK/DRG, it is customary to have the lesser-geared one do the LB. If deciding between a MNK and a DRG, it is customary to let the DRG do it, so the MNK can maintain GL3.
    While I am in total agreeance of this, it is still possible, but semi difficult to maintain GL3 while using a LB, especially Level 3, you have to have a higher skill speed and get on your moves the absolute moment you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm08 View Post
    While I am in total agreeance of this, it is still possible, but semi difficult to maintain GL3 while using a LB, especially Level 3, you have to have a higher skill speed and get on your moves the absolute moment you can.
    My skillspeed is in the 370+ and I can still use LB without losing GL3. :/ You just have to hit it during the animation since it's off GCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    My skillspeed is in the 370+ and I can still use LB without losing GL3. :/ You just have to hit it during the animation since it's off GCD.
    I've found it to be difficult with LB3, since it has a couple seconds longer cast time, but yeah, if you hit it immediately, and do your rotation immediately after, it's entirely feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaelFeist View Post
    Im but a low level monk, but in making the comparison between monk and dragoon I havent seen a few things mentioned. This is all theorycrafting, let me know if Im missing something.
    1. Mnk has better party support through enhanced mantra and the INT reduction on dragon kick. Enhanced healing and reduced boss damage vs buffing one of the weakest dps? Mnk seems to play better with others.
    2. Mnk has more damage multipliers over dragoon, leading to increased limit break damage. Most parties want to bring one melee dps for lb, so why not the one that can push more damage?
    Bard is actually one of the most consistent DPS in the game. It doesn't need to be game shatteringly high when it almost never misses, doesn't have to worry about positioning, and can move without losing uptime. So devaluing Dragoon for upping Bard while overvaluing INT bombing (when both SMN and SCH have access to in a highly potent form) seems highly misleading.
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