Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[ItzKris]

It was horribly executed.

[SummonerSenah]

They could really help mitigate this problem a lot by letting people use alt classes to get Atma. If you didn't have to be on the job with the relic weapon, you could kill two birds with one stone by farming fates on a job you're not at 50 with yet. Why can't it check your inventory to see if you have a Zenith, for example?

[HeroSamson]

Wanna know whats gonna make me laugh, you high level players who keep making excuses to want these fates to change, they are gonna higher the HP of the fates and it's gonna take even longer, then if you keep complaining they are gonna make them into dungeons with the same low drop rate have fun grinding those hahaha.

then when that doesn't work they are gonna make them drop from titan hard mode and same drop rate. the more and more you complain the harder and harder it will get, they aren't just gonna hand them over to you.

As for the low level players I don't see fates disappearing as fast and I see low level players in middle dotting and running with pack so I don't know what you mean.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I'm fairly certain the atma portion of the zodiac weapon quest series was intentionally designed with a low drop rate in order to ensure that there are always people doing the fates in low level areas in order to make the game world seem more active for when PS4 launch people arrive on the scene and also to ensure that there are enough fate participants to help these people level up.

While the areas will definitely be more active, I don't think that the new players will be impressed when swarms of max level players are rushing in and completing all the fates before they can even attack one mob.

The atma quest series probably sounded good on paper, but it has a lot of flaws.

I think that improving the drop rate will actually imrprove the situation overall. People who want atmas will collect them quicker and move on to further stages of the quest while also encouraging more people to actually do the quest in the first place. There are a lot of people that just refuse to do the fate farming atm because the drop rate is so rediculously low. I think an increase in desire to do the fates will balance out the people who stop doing them once they gather all 12 atmas.

Also an improved drop rate will mean more people spreading out to different areas, as people won't need to linger in one area for an extended period of time. This will help ensure that low level areas don't become over populated with high level players and push out low level players from fates.

Let's not forget that this atma fate farm needs to be repeated up to 9 times on a single character. This fact alone will ensure that people are populating fate areas for a long time to come. Most people still don't have all their base relic done, let alone zenith.

TLDR: SE just increase the drop rate of atma. It really is unnecessarily too low.

[RaideDuku]

That is the problem. We all experienced the fate zerg when the game started but right now, specially when the ps4 version is about to start, new players find themselves in a game where their main source of leveling (besides quests) and the only open world content they can make gets overrun and finished by lvl 50 players in a matter of seconds.

Imagine the experience of joining a fate as a new player, preparing to fight what seems like a challenging boss or protecting an npc and, suddenly, a horde of lvl 50 players comes by, kills everything in 20 seconds and leaves.

It completely ruins the experience for new players and it wont stop for months because the drops rate is ridiculous and we have to do it for every weapon we want to upgrade.

"...I'm usually the first there. Of course, in about 15-30 seconds the horde shows up..."
You left out the part of the quote that goes on to say "...and I still easily get a gold." You completely quoted me out of context. I've had no problems getting golds on my alt character in FATEs despite the horde.

[Seif]

There are tons of ways to level.

I haven't fated either of my main classes. How this is suddenly a problem is beyond me.
I would like to see atma drops added to the high level fates too because there are fun fates that nobody is joining atm.

[revonine]

"...I'm usually the first there. Of course, in about 15-30 seconds the horde shows up..."
You left out the part of the quote that goes on to say "...and I still easily get a gold." You completely quoted me out of context. I've had no problems getting golds on my alt character in FATEs despite the horde.

It's all well and good if your there first, but pre-level 30 players have no access to a mount they will never be there first unless the FATE happens to spawn nearby.

The OP has made a very good point. It's easy to see the Atma thing from a 50's point of view, but from a low level perspective sure they probably designed the new system to make the area's look more populated but at what cost? The original intention of the FATE system to a low level player is completely gone xD

[Rakashu]

Sounds to me like your just whining about not being able to get your own ATMA, and has nothing to do with leveling; because every one knows now that the best way to level up these days is through dungeons, not fate farming.

[Aldotsk]

Sounds to me like your just whining about not being able to get your own ATMA, and has nothing to do with leveling; because every one knows now that the best way to level up these days is through dungeons, not fate farming.

I already have my Atma, but thanks for your doubt and throwing words into my mouth.

No. There are actually players who are new to the game that are friends of mine, and that are in Free Company who share the same feeling as I do. It was their complaint that has brought me to mention this thread. So I'd suggest you to rethink about the purpose of this thread and read carefully about what I said before you simply accuse me of something.

Also, players like you are the very sole reasons that new players refuse to play this game because they can't have fun.

[Norondor]

Sounds to me like your just whining about not being able to get your own ATMA, and has nothing to do with leveling; because every one knows now that the best way to level up these days is through dungeons, not fate farming.

sounds to me like you're pointlessly picking fights out of some mistaken need to identify yourself as being in square-enix's camp, as if they would recognize that or care if they did, and think a suggestion like "grind something else that takes longer and requires you to queue for ~30 minutes as dps" is in any way helpful or well-considered