Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[AiChyan]

SE designed this quest for the usage of Lvl50s. You can't forbid lvl50s from using it, or low level people either. Eventually things will quiet down and fates will be easily accessible to lower level people.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I agree with the OP.

I don't personally care to farm my Atmas right now on my main, at most I'll spend maybe two hours in a farm party and just sit around doing the FATEs closest to the nearest aetheryte, but I've definitely seen the hoard that sits in every single low-level area. I've been leveling an alt character for my next 50 (yes I'm one of those weirdos who prefers to have a different class on a different character), and it was damn near impossible to get even a few enemies killed off in lowbie fates before the hoard descended on the scene like a pack of rabid vultures and utterly destroyed anything in the area.

I wouldn't care so much if I was just doing the FATEs for xp, since I could just mindlessly spam levequests given all my alts have 100 allowances by now, but I was attempting to do FATEs for seals for my chocobo. Yes I can get them from leves or guildhests, but FATEs are the fastest way to get a large amount, from my experience. And I figured since I was having to level Lancer to 22 for Invigorate and then Pugilist to 15 for Bard unlock, that I might as well level a bit off FATEs and kill two birds with one stone.

Boy was I wrong.

On one hand I like that more people are doing FATEs, since it CAN potentially help lower level players who, before 2.2, would never have been able to finish a FATE due to literally NO ONE doing FATEs anywhere. But the majority of the time now, it's actually hurting lower level players due to them not even being able to get enough damage done for their contribution to count higher than a bronze. Something needs to be fixed. Atmas can drop from FATEs, I'm certainly not asking that to be changed. But the way FATEs are working or the Atma drop or something, something's gotta be changed so low level players aren't getting left in the dust of a pack of rabid hunting dogs.

[EdwinLi]

Funny thing..

SE recently advertised the current state of the game so new players will know what it is like if they join FF14ARR today

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcOkSurxz3c

[Norondor]

Are people in this thread really arguing that low level fates aren't for low level players? I know ya'll feel some weird urge to defend everything SE does regardless of how horrible it actually is, but still, at some point it has to click that your arguments are insanely ridiculous.

lotta folks still hoping if they do a good enough job defending their favorite jrpgs then sephiroth will show up to whisk them away to a land of adventure where their mom doesn't bug them about filling out job applications all day

presumably

[SchalaZeal]

Are people in this thread really arguing that low level fates aren't for low level players?

For people on their first combat class? Yes, I'd argue it's not for them.

FATEs are for when you just happen to see one on your way to do quests, or AFTER you get your story and sidequests out of the way. By which time you should be like, lv 40+. Or for 2nd/3rd/4th/etc classes.

Also, to get better queue times, join a newbie-friendly FC, and queue with a healer or a tank.

[Takeva]

Funny thing..

SE recently advertised the current state of the game so new players will know what it is like if they join FF14ARR today

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcOkSurxz3c

LOL that is a horrible ad. Doesn't even seem finished xD
But I did get excited. I yelled "FAT CHOCOBO!" I wants it. >_<

On Topic: I think square should change the levels of the lower fates to higher levels. There really is no point if the lower levels won't ever get to experience them until they get into higher levels. It's extremely ridiculous for a level 50 to be at lvl1-25 fates. xD

[Jess72]

This was clearly a rushed attempt at gating content, they screwed up on so many levels here... if anything, it should have been level 30 fates or higher, with an increased drop rate (10% sounds more reasonable)

[Roris]

Let's trick all those new PS4 players into thinking all our areas are always this populated by screwing them over out of content they most likely will need to be doing to get extra EXP and GC seals, let's also screw all our existing players in the process by having them become the guinea pigs that will carry out our master plan by having them do a badly planned out quest that's gated entirely by luck. Surely this will increase our retainment rates in the end, I mean what could possibly go wrong?

[Mikedizzy]

They should have made this only on high level FATES...oh god imagine having to do some of those FATES...better be a ton of people in the zone or forget it. That in all actuality would have made it take even longer to grind because you could never solo any of them if you are a late night player like me.

[Duuude007]

This is a game where EVERYONE is allowed to try something for a change. This isn't a game for 50s. No new players should deserve to be doing something different because of us veteran players hunting for stupid items.

This isn't a game for sub-20s either by that argument.

A smart player will either find a way to get the best out of an over-camped area, or find another place to camp.

Logic.