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Thread: The Monk Temple

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    Excellent, thank you for the advice! Now, off to a dummy~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm08 View Post
    Well, last I've heard from EVERY source ever, you need to reach a minimum of 400 skill speed to optimize your combos. The previous best in slot setup was over that mark as well.
    Well, here I am telling you that it is definitely not the case. I don't even remember the last time I had more than 400 skill speed. I also don't remember the last time I fit less than 5 skills into PB unless the target moved or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    I have skill speed on only my allagan boots of striking, leaving me at 356 skill speed, and in any fight I do I can easily fit 5 weaponskills into PB.
    Same.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 04-06-2014 at 10:21 PM.

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    I open with perfect balance, and i can only fit 4 GCD skills into it if my skill speed is anything less than 430. It usually goes Demolish, Blood for Blood, Twin Snakes, Internal Release, Snap Punch, Steel Peak, Demolish, Howling fist (PB ends here) Touch of Death, Rotation. I can fit in a Dragon Kick between the Snap Punch and Demolish ONLY, as I said, if my speed is over 430-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Well, here I am telling you that it is definitely not the case. I don't even remember the last time I had more than 400 skill speed. I also don't remember the last time I fit less than 5 skills into PB unless the target moved or something.
    Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this 430 required Skill Speed for 5 PB attacks from. I've got like 380 if that, and I get 5 PB attacks in everytime unless the target moves way off (like on a wild pull or something).
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    If you've already got GL3, sure, thats not a problem, but it is best used to quickly get to GL3 in the beginning. With anything lower, you can only fit 4 moves in on a stationary target.
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    I'm sitting at 388 SS and I manage the 5 skills in one PB. I do start with getting GL 3 asap, Demo, SP, SP, Twin, DK. Works everytime, although I did find that at 377 I could only do 4.
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    I can see that working, i just like to guarantee that GL and Demolish don't drop off, so i alternate Coeurl form moves with others to ensure that. I could probably go the same route and be ok, its just become such a habit anymore that I stick with what I do. I'll have to try that out tonight and see how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm08 View Post
    I open with perfect balance, and i can only fit 4 GCD skills into it if my skill speed is anything less than 430. It usually goes Demolish, Blood for Blood, Twin Snakes, Internal Release, Snap Punch, Steel Peak, Demolish, Howling fist (PB ends here) Touch of Death, Rotation. I can fit in a Dragon Kick between the Snap Punch and Demolish ONLY, as I said, if my speed is over 430-ish.
    Are you saying you pop PB and do "Demolish, Blood for Blood, Twin Snakes, Internal Release, Snap Punch, Steel Peak, Demolish, Howling fist (PB ends here) Touch of Death"?

    If so that is why you are only able to fit 4 into it, If you used B4B/IR then use PB you could fit 5 skills in before you lose PB. Even then putting Steel Peak and Howling Fist in that rotation you still might not be able to get 5 skills in. Everyone does stuff their own way, But I can get 5 skills in and I have very low skill speed.
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    I've been at 356 or whatever forever and had 0 issues fitting in 5 during PB, all this 'mandatory 430+' garbage is awful. My skill speed is even lower now and I still fit in 5... just always open with a GL builder and you should be fine.
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    A "guide" that has incorrect spelling and 0 explanation or maths is just an opinion. The accuracy requirement is incorrect and it weights Determination as the same as Crit. Pretty all the information is incorrect.
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