The Monk Temple

[Allyrion]

I wish the animus wasn't the worst weapon in 2.2.

[RyuDragnier]

I wish the animus wasn't the worst weapon in 2.2.

Is it the worst weapon when all the books are done? Or is it about the same?

[Allyrion]

Is it the worst weapon when all the books are done? Or is it about the same?

I guess technically the 95 levi weapon is the worst.
But it can be upgraded to 100 to have 28 Acc/40 Crit.
To be clear, the Atma weapon is only ilvl 100 in name. Stat-wise it's exactly the same as 90 zenith and the books increase it up to proper ilvl 100 status(the Animus is what it's called when all the books are done).

The Animus is 40 Acc/28 SkS.
That and the Tidal Wave Petas are somewhat comparable. Most monks favor crit over SkS though. It's saving point is that it may make up for accuracy loss if you buy the chest.
It's a lot of work though for just that.

Not to mention the Weathered Glanzfaust is 40 Acc/20 Det and can be upgraded to 110, making it better that either of the other two.

I understand that weapons from tougher things should have higher item level.
But the way it is now, the relic ends up being for people who don't have access to the other weapons.
I'm going to do all of it anyway, but it's disappointing that the relic is just something non-raiders would use.
Especially with the elaborate book stat progression, which I think is awesome.

[Ricdeau]

I guess technically the 95 levi weapon is the worst.
But it can be upgraded to 100 to have 28 Acc/40 Crit.
To be clear, the Atma weapon is only ilvl 100 in name. Stat-wise it's exactly the same as 90 zenith and the books increase it up to proper ilvl 100 status(the Animus is what it's called when all the books are done).

The Animus is 40 Acc/28 SkS.
That and the Tidal Wave Petas are somewhat comparable. Most monks favor crit over SkS though. It's saving point is that it may make up for accuracy loss if you buy the chest.
It's a lot of work though for just that.

Not to mention the Weathered Glanzfaust is 40 Acc/20 Det and can be upgraded to 110, making it better that either of the other two.

I understand that weapons from tougher things should have higher item level.
But the way it is now, the relic ends up being for people who don't have access to the other weapons.
I'm going to do all of it anyway, but it's disappointing that the relic is just something non-raiders would use.
Especially with the elaborate book stat progression, which I think is awesome.

Yeah it would have been nice if they allowed for some level of customization to your relic since they keep leaning back to it as a class defining weapon. They sure do look cool though!

[Ehayte]

But the way it is now, the relic ends up being for people who don't have access to the other weapons.
I'm going to do all of it anyway, but it's disappointing that the relic is just something non-raiders would use.

It is very wise to continue to do the Relic quests, as they said there will continue to be progress added even in sub-patches (2.25 was mentioned specifically). I bet that are anticipating that no one will have either a full Animus or a High Allagan (or very very few people will have one) by 2.25, and that Animus will get more books to make it i110.

I think endgame raid weaps will always supersede Relics by 5 iLVLs at expected "finished" status, though.

[Allyrion]

It is very wise to continue to do the Relic quests, as they said there will continue to be progress added even in sub-patches (2.25 was mentioned specifically). I bet that are anticipating that no one will have either a full Animus or a High Allagan (or very very few people will have one) by 2.25, and that Animus will get more books to make it i110.

I'm pretty sure I (and most of my FC) will have the full Animus in the next 2 weeks. I'm halfway done with the first book without even really trying for it.
The myth tomes suck, but it can be farmed.
Regardless, people will be getting the Glanzfaust by that time. Maybe not everyone, and that does come down to some RNG (for the 110) but it's also perfectly itemized.

I think endgame raid weaps will always supersede Relics by 5 iLVLs at expected "finished" status, though.

Why does it have to by like that? All they should do is give an optional upgrade to the relic that only drops from T9.
I don't expect them to put the best stats on the relic and hopefully the stats will be customizable in the future.
It gets relegated as a casual/catch-up weapon because it requires no hardcore endgame content. They don't want to do that, because they want everyone to be able to follow the quest line.

A minor upgrade from T9 would at least give it the potential to be BiS though.
(Potential being if we ever get to change the stats)
This is subjective, but I'd much rather have the relic be BiS and evolve over the course of end-game than using some other random loot from a chest.
They could make it optional to upgrade the relic, so only people downing T9 will get that ilvl available but everyone else can still follow the questline.

The relic weapon is meant to be meaningful, but when you're hardcore you hardly get the chance to pick it up.
Of course, that's for this patch mostly. It can be completely different next patch.