The Monk Temple

[EasymodeX]

Yep. You'll do more DPS if you don't hyper-stack crit, pick up some DTR, and use Bootshine as it was intended to be used.

[Size]

Yep. You'll do more DPS if you don't hyper-stack crit, pick up some DTR, and use Bootshine as it was intended to be used.

Easy, what would you consider ideal numbers for cri, det and SS (assuming you already have max accuracy)?

[Grembo]

Hey guys, first of all i'd like to say thanks to a lot of the people that have been posting in this thread. I've picked up quite a bit for my Monk while skimming over the most recent pages for the last week or so.

I have a few questions though

1. I want to ask about general movement when moving between the targets flank and behind, I was looking at my rotation on the training dummies and noticed i'm moving out of auto attack range pretty much constantly when using the w, a, s and d keys for movement.

I found locking onto the target (numpad 5) removed this problem but as it's fiddly to hit this key between mouse clicks and it poses it's own set of problems when bosses require lots of movement/positioning to avoid taking damage.

Any tips on this?

2. That damn DL subligar! I hate it Are the Peltast Breeches a good enough alternative? I'm pretty much full DL apart from the legs..

[EasymodeX]

1. I want to ask about general movement when moving between the targets flank and behind, I was looking at my rotation on the training dummies and noticed i'm moving out of auto attack range pretty much constantly when using the w, a, s and d keys for movement.

That makes no sense. Are you not using your mouse to turn while strafing?

2. That damn DL subligar! I hate it Are the Peltast Breeches a good enough alternative? I'm pretty much full DL apart from the legs..

I love the DL pants.

[Soukyuu]

1.) There should be a legacy movement option for keyboard, try if that works better for you. Basically, it changes character movement to be relative to the camera. That's also how the gamepad works, and I'm not using lock on.

2.) You still have the alternative route of gryphonskin set. They're quite expensive tome-wise though, you need a crafter and only HQ will be on par with DL. Melding HQ puts you higher than DL but still below myth/allagan gear.

[NoctisUmbra]

Yeah, not using Bootshine is a net DPS loss in theory, but a minimal one even then. High crit rating minimizes this further.

Also, obviously it wouldn't be prudent to go well out of your way to stack anything with no regard for other stats - other stats gain in value the more you stack any one of them. I simply suggest a regular bias towards crit rate and determination in general.

I personally exercise this in my selection between melee and allagan gear for example, and I still have quite a high amount of skill speed just because it comes naturally due to itemization.

One reason for my suggestion of forgoing the use of Bootshine or True Strike is the fact that they provide minimal increases to DPS at a sizable risk, particularly for players new to the job. The fact is MNK can operate at ~95% or so optimal DPS by just sticking to the flank rotation. I feel like this is a good place for MNKs in general to start at and practice getting muscle memory down for the various DoTs, buffs and off-GCD skills. Once they are able to execute those basics well, they can begin working on optimizing via Bootshine and even True Strike if they so wish.

It's just that, there are so many MNKs out there that underperform - more than most other jobs I'd say - and my hypothesis is that they're trying too hard and failing at it. Gotta start with the basics first.

[EasymodeX]

Monks don't generally have any stat to spike or heavily optimize for unless you straight up don't use Bootshine, in which case every point of CRT is a bit better than equivalent amounts of the other 2.

Generally I skew my gear slightly away from SS due to TP (doesn't everyone? lulz). Ironically, if you have 100% Bootshine 'uptime' (e.g. you diminish the value of CRT), then SS sort of becomes the strongest theoretical stat from an item budget standpoint, until you run out of TP.

However, in practice I'd prefer to choose to increase DPS and run out of TP by using Fracture, rather than always run out of TP by using SS. I haven't done any in-depth analysis between the two approaches, though.


Aside from the SS thing, I'm also on the #believe train for DTR's future Becoming (TM) to god-stat status.

Separately, as a practical matter, even if you use Bootshine it's not like you get 100% Bootshine 'uptime'. A lot of times you default back to DK anyways for various reasons. So the net result is that it makes sense to skew slightly for CRT, regardless of other factors.


... that's the long answer. TLDR: I don't have specific stat targets. More is better, but I choose for more CRT/DTR over more SS, because Monks have multiple options to trade more TP for damage.

[NoctisUmbra]

^ Pretty much all of this. Well put.

[cypherx]

Thanks guys this was a lot of help. Its level 46 now and soon ill be dragging it through wp where I can get some practice.

[SynCity]

Hey guys, so i am very close to be hitting 50 and i am stoke! I will soon level my lancer to 34 and my MRD to 8 to get my cross skills. When I do what will my final skills rotation? And what stats/ materia should i be focusing on? Is this guide a good one to follow?

http://www.ffxivguild.com/ff14-arr-p...ation-materia/