Plan to remove benefit for failing leves?

[Vackashken]

Thanks for proving my point. GG thread, going back to l4d2 now

Your point of I did everything you babbled about a few pages back while you to try to make a clever post? Showing up to the party late and puking up that kinda junk is awesome. Like I said, run along to your l4d2 now. hur-hur

So going back..... The majority of players will defend and perform the act of abandoning leves in order to have them next reset.

And again, for the third (or 4th time) that wasn't what was under contention. Do you see anyone here saying everyone must stop doing it? Or do you see people here saying its a flawed game design and it needs to be changed under the ground of rewarding failure, which is the core of the issue, is retarded?

Tell me, is there a kind of bread you prefer? Maybe you could nibble on it as you meander to the point - wouldn't want you to get overly hungry.

[Raze]

No japanese player i play with fails to fail the leves.

So all japanese players always finish leves? This makes no sense.

I really only see a handful of cases where someone absolutely wont do it

There are a lot more than a handful.

Well lets go with how many people I know on my server that has never and would never fail a leve to achieve maximum reset-ly sp.
I know one

And now we go from a "handful" to one...

[Reika]

So all japanese players always finish leves? This makes no sense.

There are a lot more than a handful.

And now we go from a "handful" to one...

The 'handful' is the people in these forms always complaining about it. The 'one' is the person on my server. Not failing to fail a leve means ensuring one fails the leve. If i had said all japanese players i play with fails to fail the leve, that would mean that they fail to fail, but the No at the beginning of the sentence changes the meaning.

Vackashken.... just stop

[Vackashken]

The 'handful' is the people in these forms always complaining about it. The 'one' is the person on my server.

Actually, from my view, more people express its a terrible mechanic that needs changing then otherwise. Oh but what, it is so really it doesn't matter.

[Petori]

Bonus rewards? Like gil and such? I do leves for SP. Give me a big fat SP scroll for bonus and we're talking. Otherwise I'll keep abandoning.

[Reika]

Actually, from my view, more people express its a terrible mechanic that needs changing then otherwise. Oh but what, it is so really it doesn't matter.

Thats because 100% of the players that do it have posted somewhere you can see expressing their love or hate for the ability in the current state of leve balancing....

Maybe there are people that are just doing it or not doing it right now instead of letting the whole world know they do it...

But the majority of players still do it vs not doing it.

[Eldaena]

They could make all the rewards they want for completing leves, but if I can't continue to link with my friends like I do now, it doesn't mean much. It's way too time consuming and not beneficial for a party to do everyone's individual leves (which happens if you don't cancel leves in order to do the same ones again the next reset. It causes several loose ends and inefficiency time-wise for busy people.) It's almost as if they are promoting solo play if they do not also allow us to choose from all possible leves every reset whilst enhancing rewards for completion of leves in general.

[Vackashken]

Thats because 100% of the players that do it have posted somewhere you can see expressing their love or hate for the ability in the current state of leve balancing....

Maybe there are people that are just doing it or not doing it right now instead of letting the whole world know they do it...

But the majority of players still do it vs not doing it.

How dense is that blunt skull of yours? Seriously. I'm morbidly curious.

What don't you understand people are not question if people do it or not. Or do you see anyone here saying they must stop and demanding others not to do it? Or, again, do you see people basically saying its stupid to:

A: To reward failure.
B: Its a bad game mechanic that has caused incredible abuse in the game sky rocketing through levels in a game with nothing to do and making the game easier then it ever EVER should have been.
C: Offering ideas on how it could be changed.
D: The Dev saying its going to be addressed and joy expressed over it.

Seriously, What is wrong with you? Are you so hellbent on defending leve failing you'll just puke up an diatribe you can think of even though its totally out of context?

[Petori]

Random leves + 3 leves max per camp + 8 leves max per reset = very stupid to be honest.

[Eldaena]

How dense is that blunt skull of yours? Seriously. I'm morbidly curious.

What don't you understand people are not question if people do it or not. Or do you see anyone here saying they must stop and demanding others not to do it? Or, again, do you see people basically saying its stupid to:

A: To reward failure.
B: Its a bad game mechanic that has caused incredible abuse in the game sky rocketing through levels in a game with nothing to do and making the game easier then it ever EVER should have been.
C: Offering ideas on how it could be changed.
D: The Dev saying its going to be addressed and joy expressed over it.

Seriously, What is wrong with you? Are you so hellbent on defending leve failing you'll just puke up an diatribe you can think of even though its totally out of context?

I have a question. If the technique for failing leves was applied to completing them, would you still think it's wrong? Even if people are still shooting up through the levels, as you say?