Plan to remove benefit for failing leves?

[TheVedis]

It sounds to me like the intention is to reduce the amount of SP you can get from leves over all. We will have a completion bonus, but link SP will be reduced. If the idea is to take leves out of the spotlight, so-to-speak, then I imagine that link SP reduction is larger than the completion bonus.

well thats obvious
but it all depends on how much the linking is reduced
reduce it too much....you basicaly nerf leves
reduce it by a fair ammount and you maintain the balance


take dunesfolk for instance, you get 150 sp per link bonus in a 4 man group
if this is reduced by 50%, in a 4 man party you essentialy kill off 75 sp per link per kill(*you would essentialy get 900 per kill with aspect in a 4 man instead of 1200 if everyone links)

however! if the bonus at the end is worthwhile, you gain it ALL back. and the balance is maintained.


on a side note, i dont believe itl be a 50% cut, itl probly be more around a 25% cut, and the bonus will probly make us gain more sp then we did before, if we fully link AND complete

[TonyMontana]

Indeed, I think we all knew it was coming. Get ready for the slow grind to get the rest of your classes to 50.

All my combat classes are 44+ so I might be able to get a few more to 50 before the change takes effect : P

[Rentahamster]

Indeed, I think we all knew it was coming. Get ready for the slow grind to get the rest of your classes to 50.

If it means fixing the horribly designed guildleve system, then so be it.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

If it means fixing the horribly designed guildleve system, then so be it.

Not only that but people should take a chill pill already. Leves will be more of a quick/solo/casual way to get some exp but will not be the ONLY way to do it. So yeah, you only got 1hr to play? Well go do leves for some exp, when you got more time you can go party sp, do some quests or dungeons or behest.

No need to panic about the "slow" grind to 50. Players who only had a few hours a week to play will not see much of a difference. People with lots of time will get even more benefits from that since other ways of getting exp will be viable and desirable.

[Vackashken]

Indeed, I think we all knew it was coming. Get ready for the slow grind to get the rest of your classes to 50.

I'm sure they will make it more interesting... or at least I hope. Either or I hope it does slow down a bit. But thats just me :P

[Raze]

Indeed, I think we all knew it was coming. Get ready for the slow grind to get the rest of your classes to 50.

The slow grind? You mean the same grind I've been doing ever since I learned about leves and decided full-linking and failure on purpose every round was too cheap to do? lol it's all the same to me, if you ask me 50 is too easy anyway. Sour grapes

[TirionCrey]

I'm fine with whatever changes, as long as failing the leves will not be the desired way to play anymore.

As much as I like the SP you get from failing them over and over...as much I don't like the fact that all this is just for fast ranking. I can get a class from 1-50 in 5 weeks now...that's just awful and horrible...

[Takedakai]

lol My hoping was rather selfish, it wasn't a 'for the benefit of the game' type wish .

Since most of us that are still around have adjusted to the current system I felt this way a bit at first as well. It is obvious to me though that in the long run, I'm quite glad that they are changing the role of the guildleve system. I'm also glad that they have decided to make guildleves just one of the many things to do in Eorzea.

I would still be happy if they eventually add new leves for more of what they seem to be meaning for "solo" or "casual" content but what I'm really interested in is how the developers are going to encourage teamwork and group play because that is really what makes an MMO stand out from a single player rpg.

[ApplePie]

Just means we are going to find the best leves to complete in each city. And if you don't have those leves, ttb~ A whole new round of leve-abuse! gg

[TheVedis]

Just means we are going to find the best leves to complete in each city. And if you don't have those leves, ttb~ A whole new round of leve-abuse! gg

you wont even have to find the best
if the bonus for completion is good enough, perhaps just doing 8 leves per cycle at 40 in general will be all that matters(the mob sp you get beyond that will just be added onto it of course)

i still believe the link bonus isnt being overly nerfed, even at 50% of it lost, that isnt even close to a majority of the sp per kill(its closer to 25% of the mob sp if you take 50% of the link bonus away)
amd how much or little do you think the completion bonus will be? especialy if it scales with the leve rank