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    Yes, well I am now more perplexed about the Near and Far East and the three Great Continents! If anyone can post sources and information here, quotes, quest names, etc., particularly from the update, that would be great help! I will be scouring my screenshots and things later today to do this as well. I think I will also scour the New Year's events script again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    To add to discussion on the Far East:
    I believe Yugiri did mention that not *all* of Othard is fully conquered
    Hmmm, this wasn't the impression I got - I really do need to reread Yugiri's script. Thank you for giving me something to focus on

    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    The only trouble I have there is that some of the previous visitors (a la the Uma Byugo) seem to imply a fairly large and established yet still free society/city back home
    Yes, I agree. I seem to have a faint recollection about one of the event ambassadors mentioning society in the north of the Far East, etc. I really want to reread this script.

    Another point that bothers me. Limsa Lominsa has a very highly active trade with the Far East, and we have implications that citizens of the Far East are able to get fishing vessels into the waters off of Eorzea. If this is the case, I do not see it being overly difficult for the Domans to escape Othard. It would also make me reconsider how dominant the Garlean forces really were over Othard.
    Perhaps this is what Yugiri meant by "borrowed colours", she used flags from another nation's trade ships?


    Quote Originally Posted by Grayve View Post
    I believe she actually says all of Othard was under the control of the Empire.
    This was always my impression, but this is what the lore on the official website says:
    • Garlean Empire The Garlean Empire controls the majority of the Three Great Continents, the enormous landmass that encompasses Eorzea.
    • Garlemald was a remote and sparsely populated nation which held little more than a fraction of the northern continent of Ilsabard
    • One nation after the next fell before their relentless onslaught, first those of the northlands, followed by the sovereign states of the eastern continent, Othard.
    I suppose there is room in there to argue that all of Othard is not subjugated. Yet, out visitors from the Far East mention the Twelve during their stay in Eorzea for Heavensturn (even showing reverence for them, perhaps considering them apart of their own mythos). If there were neighbouring villages to kingdoms conquered by the imperial forces worshiping false gods, I wouldn't be a happy Garlean.

    Also, as an aside, is there a source that says that all three Great Continents are connected by land bridge, etc? I can only assume from the Eorzean map that Ilsabard connects to Aldenard just beyond Gyr Abania. I have read in other threads that the three Great Continents are connected by land bridge, which I have not seen anywhere in game or lore in 2.0+. I think people are simply expecting the realm to be like the map of Vana'diel.
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    Last edited by Kyan; 03-29-2014 at 11:15 AM.