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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    Kyan is correct, Thavnair is an island... though it may be a part of the same region as Othard, sort of like Vylbrand and Aldenard make Eorzea. So they may be similar in cultures, the whole Final Fantasy samurai/ninja/blue mage/etc societies we associate with the "east."
    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    Yeah it's def an island with Radz-at-Han as the capital. The OP of this thread has the sources listed already if you want to see for yourself (most relevent the item descriptions for Adamantoise Shell and Thavnairian Mistletoe). Mint Lassi does refer to it as "city-state" though, so there may be a conflation of terms here. What is 100% clear though is that it's definitely separate from Othard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvinoobus View Post
    Radz-at-Han claims the entirety of Thavnair as its territory, much as Limsa Lominsa and Ul’dah claim to have dominion over the smaller settlements throughout La Noscea and Thanalan respectively. Alas, this means that the current description of Thavnairian mist is incorrect and must be revised with a future update. Hope that clarifies things!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    Hello team, in the patch notes, it says [Jalzahn is a Far Eastern alchemist]. In game, Jalzahn clearly states that he comes from the Near Eastern city-state of Radz-at-Han. I am certain the Far East and the Near East are two separate countries?
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvinoobus View Post
    They are indeed different places, and you'll find that Jalzahn's origins are now correctly described in the patch notes. Thanks!
    Well, that well and truly solves that little riddle about Radz-at-Han, though that cheeky pudding has me laughing at his round-about answer (which I bolded) about the Near and Far East. Different places isn't quite different countries, is it? Still, we know Thavnair is an island so it is definitely separate from Othard in that regard. Here's hoping for more translation/typo/errors about other regions of Hydaelyn in the future!
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    Last edited by Kyan; 04-04-2014 at 07:33 PM.
    Yhan, the White Viper.

  2. #102
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    Hey guys!

    Whilst I am very busy IRL with study, I am holding on to a glimmer of hope that, after the next three busy, crazy weeks of me teaching full time, I will have some respite and be able to update this thread with information tidbits, like the Isle of Val and taffeta cloth, in this thread. I was reluctant to do so for spoilers, but now I feel that it is okay to include this information!

    I have yet to go through the current information on this thread, as some of it has changed due to localisation errors. Also, there may be leve information and content which I have not participated in yet - please feel free to share any information you find, no matter how obscure it is, about the other lands of Hydaelyn!

    Is the new layout of the first post okay? I am wanting to do something similar for the thread about the Void, too - going through all the leves, items and quest dialogue I can to compile information about the netherworld. It is a work in progress!
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  3. #103
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    First of all I wanna say that this thread is awesome, and super informative. Got me all pumped up to reroll a new character on the game and reread all the storyline.
    And thank god I did, cuz now I can help out with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    Another point that bothers me. Limsa Lominsa has a very highly active trade with the Far East, and we have implications that citizens of the Far East are able to get fishing vessels into the waters off of Eorzea. If this is the case, I do not see it being overly difficult for the Domans to escape Othard. It would also make me reconsider how dominant the Garlean forces really were over Othard.
    The LV. 2 Lominsan sidequest "Licensed to Reave" has you deliver a couple of spice sampler to both Coral Tower and the Bismarck.
    When you deliver the sample to the Bismarck, Lyngsath, the guildmaster, says the following:

    Lyngsath: A new sample from the Seventh Sage? Alright, let's 'ave a whiff of it, then.
    Lyngsath: Hmmm... Ain't smelled nothin' like it afore. The note as came with it says it's a root what grows on Othard.
    Lyngsath: Last I 'eard, Othard was under imperial rule. 'Ow the seven 'ells did Carvallain manage to get 'old o' this?


    So Lyngsath confirms from the beginning that Othard is in fact under Imperial rule. Now how does Limsa get a hold of a lot of things from the East?

    Carvallain: With the Admiral's blessing, we engage in a form of trade with Garlean ships. Everything we do, you may rest assured, is within the law.


    As the sidequest summary states:

    In completing the task, you have endeared yourself to Carvallain. He reveals to you his ambitions to grow rich as a privateer, attacking and looting Garlean ships in the Admiral's name.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEdeonX View Post
    First of all I wanna say that this thread is awesome, and super informative. Got me all pumped up to reroll a new character on the game and reread all the storyline.
    And thank god I did, cuz now I can help out with this:
    Fantastic! Thank you Edeon! I do recall doing that quest, but it was so long ago! You're right, maybe I should create a new character to find these lore tidbits form the beginning quests, too!
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  5. #105
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    So, I haven't updated this thread in a long time, nor my notes since entering full-time employment. However, I just spent some time rereading everything and I giggled at some of my predictions and inferring being correct and very incorrect. I might make it a personal goal to update this over the Christmas break. Please look forward to it! Now, time to reread every tooltip and item description...
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyan View Post
    So, I haven't updated this thread in a long time, nor my notes since entering full-time employment. However, I just spent some time rereading everything and I giggled at some of my predictions and inferring being correct and very incorrect. I might make it a personal goal to update this over the Christmas break. Please look forward to it! Now, time to reread every tooltip and item description...
    Don't forget the lorebook. It might clear up a lot of things.
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