Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Clavaat]

How can you call this a "casual" option? Casual players usually have a limited amount of time to play. They would like to see progress in that limited time. RNG is in complete defiance to that.

I edited to further explain. Casual Skill Option, not Casual Time Option. A casually skilled player can hop on, try a few FATEs while waiting for DR/DF, get an Anima no problem because the FATEs are easy, and move on. A casually skilled player cannot, however complete BC or Leviathan.

[Psun]

I edited to further explain. Casual Skill Option, not Casual Time Option. A casually skilled player can hop on, try a few FATEs while waiting for DR/DF, get an Anima no problem because the FATEs are easy, and move on. A casually skilled player cannot, however complete BC or Leviathan.

While I hate that its fates of all things, this is a good point... just wish it hadn't been fates

[mircanda]

5% drop rate not quite. ive been keeping track, i have done over 700 fates in one area and have yet to get the drop. yes im useing the right weapon, as i have other drops, but 4 people from my fc decided to come join me and all got the drop in 30 mins comparied to my 2 days.

[Fornix]

5% drop rate not quite. ..

But that's just the thing, even with a 5% drop rate, the odds are still there that you can be that unlucky.

The odds of not getting the item per FATE 0.95. What are the odds of not getting the item after 180 FATEs? That'd come down to (0.95^180)*100%; pretty much 0.01%. In other words, statistically speaking, for 1 out of every 10.000 players it's going to be expected that obtaining a single ATMA is going to take 180 FATEs. If we say a single FATE lasts 5 minutes (moving towards, killing and moving back) you can count on 15 hours.

But of course you can also have that 1 in a billion chance, and having it take many more hours to receive the drop. There's no cumulative bonus to counter that, so theoretically speaking there's the chance of being so unlucky that it'd take more FATEs to complete than possible within the span of a single human life. That's the love of RNG for you.