Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Eldelphia]

I doubt we'll see changes. There was a huge outcry about housing and in the end those who wanted it put their heads down as a group and got on with it. I suspect this will be the same.

This patch seems to be about slowing players down a lot. Crafters, gatherers and those working on relics have all been slowed down. You can no longer spam quests and fights to complete a relic for every class or be effective in every craft.

I have mixed feelings about it. The crafting stuff has really got me down, the relic weapon quest bothers me less. I do agree though that it should be slightly less random on the drop rate for atma or that your chance of getting the atma rises per kill. /shrug, they had to slow us down at some point.

[Shirai]

I doubt we'll see changes. There was a huge outcry about housing and in the end those who wanted it put their heads down as a group and got on with it. I suspect this will be the same.

They actually did some minor adjustments on the house prices, nothing really drastic but they did.
And I do expect them to also do something about this as people are genuinely getting angry, no, furious, and for good reason.
While I do not mind the FATE aspect of the grind as much as other people do, this is nothing short of extreme and unless something is done on the abysmal droprate this is ultimately going to be a showstopper for a lot of people regardless of the other fantastic stuff they have added this update.

[Delorean]

This patch seems to be about slowing players down a lot. Crafters, gatherers and those working on relics have all been slowed down. You can no longer spam quests and fights to complete a relic for every class or be effective in every craft.

Well, this atma farm isn't slowing anyone down if you ask me. It's just like "well, there went my weekend of, you know, things that are actually fun to do".

if anything, this took less time than it did for me to get my relic. in a few weeks just about everyone who even cared about upgrading their relic is going to have an animus weapon.

some people already have em and i'm sure that if i no lifed on myth grinding as hard as i did on atma grinding i'd be able to get it done in a few days. I mean shit, look at how many philo tomes you needed to be in full DL.

i'm honestly always surprised at how relic weapons and their acquisition or improvement never have anything to do with raiding.

[Taruranto]

It took 4 weeks full focused (night and day) just to see Argus spawns, Peacock Charm NM on FFXI and hope for the drop (2% drop rate). You all don't know how you are lucky to play this.
And I was lucky.
FFXI relic trials takes weeks of points farming. This is still nothing and still an easy way to obtain a relic upgrade. I am still on my point, relic must be for 50-100 players per server, max. Or it's not relic but a common weapon. Well, they changed name now to Zodiac, deal.

Finding and farming NM was better than this shiet, FATEs is the worst system ever. :C

[Snarke]

It took 4 weeks full focused (night and day) just to see Argus spawns, Peacock Charm NM on FFXI and hope for the drop (2% drop rate). You all don't know how you are lucky to play this...

EDIT: You know what? I changed my mind. I just wanted to lash out at someone from all my frustration, but indeed this isn't really the game you want either. It's not gonna be FFXI. Relic won't be an elite weapon. In 2 weeks EVERYONE will have atma. Not because they fought some super rare boss and got a rare drop, but because they grinded hours on the EASIEST most mind-numbing content in the game, over and over and over. It won't sift out the elite. It's so utterly pointless I want to cry.

[Rodew]

It took 4 weeks full focused (night and day) just to see Argus spawns, Peacock Charm NM on FFXI and hope for the drop (2% drop rate). You all don't know how you are lucky to play this.
And I was lucky.
FFXI relic trials takes weeks of points farming. This is still nothing and still an easy way to obtain a relic upgrade. I am still on my point, relic must be for 50-100 players per server, max. Or it's not relic but a common weapon. Well, they changed name now to Zodiac, deal.

3 days of farm(10 hours each days)just farming fates and i got 1 atma while i see people around me with the weapon alredy to the next level in less time and effort then me,what this "elite" have that i don't?you wanna know?Luck!
getting a relic weapon based on Luck sound epic at you?
getting a relic by slaying an immense powerful word boss that require half server/coordination/skill sound epic not LUCK!(is an exageration but you can get the point)

[Valthein]

If you want a true grind with no payout then by all means go to a casino and play slots. we want to game, not mindlessly gamble!

[ApolloGenX]

This system offers no reward for skill or dedication (random could reward dedicated or non-dedicated)... so defending it is neither "hard core" nor "casual" it is simply self serving. If you have benefited from good RNG, you might defend... otherwise, you might not. Personally, I see this as a bad design, since it randomly rewards, which encourages neither good game play, nor any other virtuous behavior.

It is merely a slot machine mechanic for a relic. I can not see why a game would offer a relic upgrade from a slot machine. It makes no sense to me. Hard core, or casual, you might as well argue that the game dispense relic upgrades from a casino slot machine.

[snowybell]

There is no way this atma revolves around "Elite players".
I agree with sleepybee, my friend got 8 in around 7 hours, and me, only 3.

[Rodew]

There is no way this atma revolves around "Elite players".

with the Atma fate grinding now people can call themself elite/lucky instead of elite/skilled.let them bask in their moment,i am waiting the moment when they can't go furhter then t4 even dressed full IL90 gear