Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Cordelius]

low random drop rates is bad design.

I'm not sure you know what "bad design" means.

[Ranghar]

Yay, I like the grind, because it's a different option. Granted Allagan weapon is still Top Tier and that is the real goal...talk about Tedius @.@;;

But Fates, its just as random as the Allagan...once someone posts a video on how to beat it that is

Alas I digress, I like the new system since it offers something for us "casuals" to poor over and try to get ^.^

-Tari

p.s. This is a great thread but bad title...just saying.

I wouldn't say it is as random as fates. Allagan weapons have a 100% chance to drop. You have a little over 11% chance that the weapon will be the one you want. The atma drop rate for FATES is WAY lower than 11%. Also, the first time your group gets an Allagan weapon to drop there is a 100% chance that someone in the group needs it. Thus improving your group.

[SendohJin]

I'm not sure you know what "bad design" means.

Range is always bad design.

EX Weapons - no range good design.
Allagan Weapons - range bad design.

[Ranghar]

Spent 8 hours on fates...got 3 Atma. I may be unlucky, but it's still horrid having to go back and do low level fates as a scholar. If it was grind 1,000 lvl 50 fates I would be happier. Low level scholar is very painful.

[Doki]

I guess I'd be more annoyed, but I need to do a LOT of FATEs anyhow for the 3k achievement, plus all the crafting junk will take a lot of FATE farming for mats as well.

[givemeraptors]

Question: You need to have relic zenith equipped to get Atma to drop?

I was hoping I could kill two birds with one stone--leveling lower classes while getting Atma--looks like that isn't possible :l

[DarkB]

how people can not understand that repetitive doesnt mean challenging? People asked for challenging things, not repetitive easy content.
What people are complaining about is that this quest is just time sinking with 0 challenge. There is a huge difference when the time sink comes from spamming something that is easy instead coming from a challenging fight or fights or anything else.

[Adelphe]

Spent 8 hours on fates...got 3 Atma. I may be unlucky, but it's still horrid having to go back and do low level fates as a scholar. If it was grind 1,000 lvl 50 fates I would be happier. Low level scholar is very painful.

i think your lucky, 3-4 hours now not a single one

[Ranghar]

Exactly. Relics should be obtained by skilled players who clear hard content...not players who spam <lvl30 fates for hours on end. Hell, at least at launch I felt some pride in killing hardmode titan for my relic. I feel nothing but shame when I put in 8 hours to get 3 ATMA shards by doing content that its impossible for me to die doing. Summon Fairy, and spam ruin on boss mob while watching TV. Don't even have to dodge the moves.

[Shirai]

Exactly. Relics should be obtained by skilled players who clear hard content...not players who spam <lvl30 fates for hours on end.

That's what the High Allagan weapons are for.
Relics, even in the predecessor FFXI, were never hard to get.
Time consuming, yes, hard, no.