Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[SendohJin]

That's what the High Allagan weapons are for.
Relics, even in the predecessor FFXI, were never hard to get.
Time consuming, yes, hard, no.

FFXI relics weren't just time consuming, you still need to kill the Animated Weapons, it's just that anyone who can gather the currency is likely also in a Dynamis/HNM LS that can get do it for them. it's not AV or even Dynamis Lord but it's not a joke that you can solo either.

[Bizniztyme]

FFXI relics weren't just time consuming, you still need to kill the Animated Weapons, it's just that anyone who can gather the currency is likely also in a Dynamis/HNM LS that can get do it for them. it's not AV or even Dynamis Lord but it's not a joke that you can solo either.

Titan HM wasn't a joke neither for alot of people, what's your point?

[SendohJin]

Titan HM wasn't a joke neither for alot of people, what's your point?

Titan HM has nothing to do with this quest, and it wasn't a joke to anyone who did it the first time unless they got carried.

my point was that it's incorrect to compare this quest chain to the FFXI relic quest chain.

[Fynlar]

lol complained game to easy now we get something challenging to do now they want to take it back hahah.

This isn't even challenge, it's just tedium. Luck-based tedium, to make it even worse.

[Nutz]

People on this game don't seem to like challenging content to get gear/ upgrades. The 'A Relic Reborn' quest is mostly designed that way and everyone complains that it's too short and everyone eventually gets a relic (especially since you can carry people once you overgear the fights). What kind of content could they possibly design to take a long time because it's challenging (not a blatant time sink) while still being possible to clear? Without adding TONS of new fights there's just no way to do it, and even so, if those fights didn't keep most people struggling for weeks people would say it's too easy and can be done in 15 minutes with your eyes closed.

[Nadrojj]

I am sorry but this FATE time sink is beyond insanely stupid 3hours now of RNG and 0 Atma........ This is not what players wanted in terms of time sinks >.<. (I vouche for all the ppl doing FATE this morning) xD

Don't speak for everyone. Instant gratification should not be a MMO staple.

[File2ish]

Be glad it's not from a mob with a 10+ hour (earth time) respawn rate and a drop rate under 10% for the item you want. We got a tedious grind, yes, but it's sooooo much better than competing with people for a notorious monster that spawns every 10 hours with a 10% drop rate on the item and you may have no way of knowing when the last time of death was.

THAT was a huge time sink with RNG screwing. And I'm not even talking about Relic and Mythic weapons in FFXI, just a rare drop from a NM that was really good for level 60+. Or camping an area with widescan to get a certain NM with a crap drop rate on what you want to pop AND it wouldn't spawn for X amount of earth hours after you kill it? Haaaaaa.

And don't get me started on the Empyrean weapon grind. 1500 heavy metal plates and 3000 riftcinder from voidwatch NMs to get the higher level versions of the weapons. I never attempted any of it, not even getting the lowest versions of those weapons.

[Yukiko]

hm...
I wonder...
Working 2 years on one job powering up spending love and so...
To try something else because its becoming boring or just for fun taking another job now...
Locked out of content because stupid DPS race on most cotent in FFXIV:ARR...
Spending again 1 year just to catch up...
... realize too late that now both jobs are outdated because the 3 month progress in new content with linear item powerups!

Note: Thats a future example, that can possible happen if SE follow their current path

I am interested how new players feel about?
Timesink was never a solution to any problem!

When I heard something about "time to progress" firtstly i thought great, giving the weapon away and gaining it back after time... but to have stupid grinding (once again), all motivation is gone...

[TeaTimeBear]

hm...
I wonder...
Working 2 years on one job powering up spending love and so...
To try something else because its becoming boring or just for fun taking another job now...
Locked out of content because stupid DPS race on most cotent in FFXIV:ARR...
Spending again 1 year just to catch up...
... realize too late that now both jobs are outdated because the 3 month progress in new content with linear item powerups!

Note: Thats a future example, that can possible happen if SE follow their current path

I am interested how new players feel about?
Timesink was never a solution to any problem!

When I heard something about "time to progress" firtstly i thought great, giving the weapon away and gaining it back after time... but to have stupid grinding (once again), all motivation is gone...

This quest is not a requirement. It's an alternative there is no being left behind in this game because everything gets dumbed down so people can catch up. People need to stop behaving like they MUST do this.

[AlrikRouge]

Haven't started it yet, but from reading all the original threads on relic being too easy to get and doesn't take a long time, this sounds like it is not easy to get because it takes a long time.

And you don't even get the end goal, because it continues on later.

Be careful what you wish for....