Lack of tanks in the game

[Kirinichibon]

Tanks increase group damage by keeping mobs organized and allowing healers to keep everyone safe and dps themselves. Tanks also do a decent chunk of damage.

The group's goal is to kill all the things. Everyone is dps in some way.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I agree with Delorean. I see WAY more tanks acting full on rude, belittling or condescending to the DPS and healers than I see anyone acting rude to the tank.

In fact, did CT last night three times, and two of those times had a tank that started the insults almost immediately. The third run went completely smoothly with no badmouthing.

[mythicrose]

I agree with Delorean. I see WAY more tanks acting full on rude, belittling or condescending to the DPS and healers than I see anyone acting rude to the tank.

That's probably because you've yet to level a tank. However, don't use CT as an example of a rude tank. That place is a cesspool and breeding ground for trolls. My own experiences of tanking and dpsing have seen about the same level of rudeness directed at the tank. Sometimes the rudeness is warrented, but mostly it's some douche being an unjustified ass clown.

[NorthernLadMSP]

That's probably because you've yet to level a tank. However, don't use CT as an example of a rude tank. That place is a cesspool and breeding ground for trolls. My own experiences of tanking and dpsing have seen about the same level of rudeness directed at the tank. Sometimes the rudeness is warrented, but mostly it's some douche being an unjustified ass clown.

Well, I definitely agree that anyone has the potential to be rude. I'm just sharing my point of view of the times when people have insulted me personally.

The three other times I have specifically been attacked, insulted, belittled etc. have also been by tanks. One in Haukke HM, one in Castum M and once in Brayflox. So, in the 5 instances of rudeness directed towards me, all of them have been instigated by tanks. Two of those instances, I had politely stated at the very beginning that that was my first time.

[mythicrose]

The three other times I have specifically been attacked, insulted, belittled etc. have also been by tanks. One in Haukke HM, one in Castum M and once in Brayflox. So, in the 5 instances of rudeness directed towards me, all of them have been instigated by tanks. Two of those instances, I had politely stated at the very beginning that that was my first time.

You know what? My first times tanking in Qarn (pre-nerf), Cutter's Cry, Stone Vigil, and Aurum Vale all lead to insults directed at me... no one bothered to give me a heads up. All insults were given by dps. People + internet anonymity = abundant assholes.

I grow tiresome of people always pointing to the tanks as the asshats when there are asshats in every role. Truth is we all deal with them (tanks) only becuase it's often easier to ignore them than boot them and wait for a new tank. I know many dps I've booted for being assholes....simply because they are easy to replace.

[NorthernLadMSP]

You know what? My first times tanking in Qarn (pre-nerf), Cutter's Cry, Stone Vigil, and Aurum Vale all lead to insults directed at me... no one bothered to give me a heads up. All insults were given by dps. People + internet anonymity = abundant assholes.

I grow tiresome of people always pointing to the tanks as the asshats when there are asshats in every role. Truth is we all deal with them (tanks) only becuase it's often easier to ignore them than boot them and wait for a new tank. I know many dps I've booted for being assholes....simply because they are easy to replace.

Trust me, I have friends who play as tanks and have heard similar things from them. So, while I'm not a tank myself, I can understand your point. My two main jobs that I play are white mage and scholar, so I know what it's like to be blamed for a fail.

[Delorean]

Tanks increase group damage by keeping mobs organized and allowing healers to keep everyone safe and dps themselves. Tanks also do a decent chunk of damage.

Well, in the grand scheme of things when you look at what a tank contributes to a party, it's largely "making things attack me and not dying", which is something we have been doing in RPGs without a Tank for a very long time.