2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

[Naunet]

This is the only thing mentioned so far that even remotely suggests any milk cow or p2w possibilities, otherwise them doing this cant be called anything different than paying for "mules".

In every p2p MMO out there, your access to inventory space and market board usage is not restricted behind an extra pay wall. FFXIV is a p2p MMO and thus it should be no different. It's really as simple as that.

[Phaydra]

In every p2p MMO out there, your access to inventory space and market board usage is not restricted behind an extra pay wall. FFXIV is a p2p MMO and thus it should be no different. It's really as simple as that.

Actually Lotro sold a booster pack for shared bank storage before it went FTP. FFXI did too if you count paying the extra $1 a month for a mule character. FFXIV 1.0 did as well with the $1 a month per extra retainer.

[SirSaber]

I actually would like to have that popsicle... why must you taunt me

Just go grab one

In every p2p MMO out there, your access to inventory space and market board usage is not restricted behind an extra pay wall. FFXIV is a p2p MMO and thus it should be no different. It's really as simple as that.

Listen here, who cares about "other" P2P? SE can do whatever the heck they want.
You want more Retainers pay for it, deal.

It's like WoW asking 40$ for an Expantion of their Games, other P2P deliver them for free but Blizz makes you pay for it.

It's called marketing.

[Naunet]

We do not have to "deal". We can express our feelings about it and encourage SE to change their minds about their model for implementing additional storage. That's called responsible consumership, rather than being a doormat and letting companies walk all over you.

Some people are looking waaaaaaaaaaay to deep into this for only a simple storage unit :/.

And you're naive to think it will stop there. It won't. It never does.

if someone wants to buy one more because maybe they are a hoarder that is not restricting access in anyway.

Yes, it is by definition restricting access to additional inventory space, market board space, ventures, and who knows what else, because you cannot access more unless you pay money.

[Mintyflo]

In every p2p MMO out there, your access to inventory space and market board usage is not restricted behind an extra pay wall. FFXIV is a p2p MMO and thus it should be no different. It's really as simple as that.

What I can't with the "Market board usage is not restricted behind an extra pay wall" first off you already have two retainers.. with the patch we may get a third for free (through questing or what not) now then if someone wants to buy one more because maybe they are a hoarder that is not restricting access in anyway. You can use the MB right now.. and maybe you are.. how is this...what? I highly doubt someone is going to buy a hoard of retainers just so they can hold the market for one item. It's called supply and demand if you have 4 retainers selling similar stuff.. you still are competing with EVERYONE else who is also selling it. Do some people corner the market sure but I'll be damned they don't have anything better else to do...

[MCS]

Lol at only selling farmed stuff which is basically the worst way to make gil via MB. Anyway your whole argument is thus 100% invalid.

You don't miraculously spiritbond 10x faster.
You don't miraculously craft gear 10x faster.

Nothing at MB is a good gil making method, i will have fun selling coil and primal runs, you can stay poor.

[SirSaber]

We do not have to "deal". We can express our feelings about it and encourage SE to change their minds about their model for implementing additional storage. That's called responsible consumership, rather than being a doormat and letting companies walk all over you.

I'll express my feelings about this to you.

I don't care if they give you the choice of having 1,2or3 retainers throw microtransaction or not.

Like I said people should cool down, really, it's allways drama here in the forums and meanwile in the game you have 500'000 guys who're playing without the need of going to the forums and cry.

[Mintyflo]

I still don't see how it can be such a huge deal tho'.
Like this one person said nothing on MB really sells for all that much. As for having space for crafting.. I don't see how you'd have two retainers 100% full "if" you aren't leveling crafting professions anymore.

But you know I don't understand why I keep responding it isn't hurting me none if the dude next me has one extra retainer. I only have one who has ten things on them and a few things up for sale. /shrug. I really don't believe this will snow ball into some P2W rando-box bonanza but maybe I am just alil bit more level headed about things we know nothing about..

[Nestama]

Just go grab one

I would, but all the deli's have closed now. Also, I don't think any of them sell that particular popsicle.

[LalaRu]

...retainers will be able to go out on missions and gather materials and more. The person who spends their real life money on more retainers will have more access to materials and be able to obtain them much quicker than someone who does not. This is literally the definition of Pay 2 Win...

I'm sorry to disagree with a so much liked post, but the definition of P2W is totally different.

P2W is when you can get features giving advantages in game that none else can get without accessing the cash shop.

The hired shop retainers will give you access to items you can get in game, so there is no pay to win, but (maybe?) a shortage of time needed to get the items.

TL;DR: Have a way to get items faster is not a pay to win.