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  1. #221
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    Seif Dincht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That is sellling power, which is not the case atm.
    How is basically selling gil not selling power?!

    With the ability to buy hq gear for esch class all the way to 50 is by far the biggest change to balance this game has ever had.
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  2. #222
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    Ricad'ganteng Bangetz
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    How is selling you retainer, selling you gil? You don't miraculously farm 10x faster now if you buy 10x retainer. You have more space to sell stuff, but you won't be able to replenish faster.
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  3. #223
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    Mardel's Avatar
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    Eru Meru
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    All this talk about an extra retainer = P2W... really pointless the selling power is redundant in an economy where money has little value outside vanity, housing, and getting my hair did.

    Also to end this fantasy world ideology... selling mats pales in comparison to the sheer power of selling extreme clears and soon to be turn 5 clears. The time spent clearing the fight would take a large period of time in selling items to overcome. Also in order to sell the items they have to obtained somehow and I get a feeling that when retainers go to gather mats they won't be bringing home a lot. However, if this helps people get more money to pay groups of us that does this, by all means buy 20 retainers.
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    Last edited by Mardel; 03-20-2014 at 03:28 PM.
    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

  4. #224
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    Reimi Namikaze
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    As long as there not adding any "Gambling" system where you pay a crap ton of money for a chance at a "Rare powerful Equipment", Im fine. That or a system where enhancing the stats of a weapon is made easy with money. For example, a Scroll that would make Over melding 100% success. <~ that is bad LOL. OR just having to use real money to be on par with endgame content.
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiaQuanta View Post
    As long as there not adding any "Gambling" system where you pay a crap ton of money for a chance at a "Rare powerful Equipment", Im fine. That or a system where enhancing the stats of a weapon is made easy with money. For example, a Scroll that would make Over melding 100% success. <~ that is bad LOL. OR just having to use real money to be on par with endgame content.
    Don't gets your hopes up, because that's probably next.
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    PS3 limitations

  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    Don't gets your hopes up, because that's probably next.

    Mhmm don't look up because the sky is falling. Seriously... signature pretty much describes your comment. >.>;
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

  7. #227
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    Seif Dincht
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCS View Post
    How is selling you retainer, selling you gil? You don't miraculously farm 10x faster now if you buy 10x retainer. You have more space to sell stuff, but you won't be able to replenish faster.
    Lol at only selling farmed stuff which is basically the worst way to make gil via MB. Anyway your whole argument is thus 100% invalid.
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    Mhmm don't look up because the sky is falling. Seriously... signature pretty much describes your comment. >.>;
    YOU SEE, A REALM REBORN; CAN BE REBORN YET AGAIN!
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  9. #229
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    This reminds me of "TERA", about some RNG boxes added to "cash shop" while it was P2P. the forum generated hundreds of pages, the so outrage RNG desire item still went on sale, but community received an apology and EME promise not to do it again....Few month later game went F2P.
    Not saying FF14 is on the same situation as their subscription numbers/population I see seem pretty healthy. But I wold much rather let this "convenience" retainers go on sale and let SE generate more revenue to improve the game/faster content than allow F2P. if this game ever goes F2P, all hope is lost for P2P MMORPGS and will be the last MMO I will play.

    The Choice:
    A: Allow SE to generate more revenue by selling non-balance breaking items/Fantasia/retainer (the auto gathering concerns me, guess have to wait for 2.2 retainer features)
    B: Further push the idea of F2P (different thread on this matter) on Yoshi P's mind.
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    Ugh trying to read 22 pages of people screaming "THIS IS P2W".. But one thing I did seem to notice is people just saying "XI would never do this".
    Does no one seriously remember getting a mog satchel/sack whatever it was called when you bought a token. See most people seem to forget that. XI had huge inventory space issues. Buying a token was a no brainer for extra space. That allowed me to be better than some of my counterparts when it came to healing cause I had access to my highly situational gear.

    Now I would never call that p2w because that was far from it. It was a service I purchased to allow me to have more space. I don't think it was some sort of slippery slope nor do I think being able to purchase something that changes my race is either. This is not XI I'm not trying to get ahead but becoming a taru for that added INT bonus.. it's so silly. I really doubt FF would ever boil down to "Buy this new super starter pack golden edition for 50bucks."
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