Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

Originally Posted by Doo

Do you think players that are in favor of cash shops are rmters?

By that stretch of logic, everyone playing the game is an rmter. Since everyone is in favor of spending real money to play the game.

Originally Posted by Alwryn

By that stretch of logic, everyone playing the game is an rmter. Since everyone is in favor of spending real money to play the game.

I wouldn't be surprised. RMT business got to come from some where and we know that RMT is huge in FFXIV. Cash shops are pretty much legalize rmt.

Originally Posted by Doo

I wouldn't be surprised. RMT business got to come from some where and we know that RMT is huge in FFXIV. Cash shops are pretty much legalize rmt.

It's true, RMT is a sustainable business, else it wouldn't be here.

Cash shops can be legal RMT, yes. Key word however, is can. It can only be considered RMT if it buys a tangible advantage in game. It's possible SE could go down the darker path, but I don't believe they will.

Originally Posted by Alwryn

SE could go down the darker path, but I don't believe they will.

I came from DCUO and it started out pretty small. Then came replay badges that totally changed the game. The thinking is that once a company sees what type of ridiculous money they can make by using micro transactions, they aren't going to be able to resist the temptation. That's the reason for cause of concern even though it may seem small now.

no issues in any way if retainers are a microtransaction.

Originally Posted by Finuve

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Oh, people can have different definitions of what entails p2W? Who knew. Maybe people can have different definitions of what a subscription model is "supposed to be" as well!

Hehe, now I'm just having fun with ya but as long as it doesn't hold a tangible advantage over someone else in gameplay/progression then I don't consider it p2W.

Originally Posted by Finuve

good to see that everyone (sans 1) ignored my post about defining pay 2 win

Remember, your definition of winning and someone elses definition of winning could be very different things, as two players can have very different goals in game, AND many players have multiple goals

The benefit of a subscription model is supposed to be that everyone has equal access to everything negating any advantage over ANY play style

Extra mule and the mog sachel was essentially the same thing and no one complain about them; and back in xi, the space are much more valuable as well due to in battle equipment swap.