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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSaviour View Post
    Is anyone else disappointed that the new HM and Amdapor Dungeons are going to be super easy....?

    Why not make them at least iLv70 Min Req. ??

    It is super easy to get any / all your characters to at least this Requirement by now with DR Bonuses .. etc
    pharos was ilv49 and ppl needed it nerfed
    just sayin
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazyrs View Post
    pharos was ilv49 and ppl needed it nerfed
    just sayin

    While I do think everyone should have access to new content, but it should require some work and progression to be able to enter. You can't just pop in a Game and expect to have the option to be at the End Boss.

    If the actual 'iLv' to beat these new dungeons is 65-70 ... then SE needs to state it as Min Req, not some super low iLv. This will only serve to waste others time when a tank with 4200 HP joins and the group wipes repeatedly. (Has happened to me in Pharos, Tank had the lowest HP of the Group).

    the game has been out for 6 Months and it is Really easy now to collect Philos via DR Dailies. Through natural game progression a new Level 50 character could have a full set of Dark Light with in a week by only playing 1-2 Hours a day. Oh not to mention that Mythos and Coil 1-5 cap is being Removed from what I hear...

    It seems SE hasn't learned from its mistake setting iLv on Pharos and XM battles.
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  3. #23
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    because 65-70 is not required
    me and my fc did ps b4 the nerf in af/dl accessories when we were bored just to see

    sure it was harder but we still got all the way thro
    however we do play together all the time, doubtful 4 random df ppl could do it
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by krazyrs View Post
    because 65-70 is not required
    me and my fc did ps b4 the nerf in af/dl accessories when we were bored just to see

    sure it was harder but we still got all the way thro
    however we do play together all the time, doubtful 4 random df ppl could do it
    So you were still Ilv60-something for a iLv49 dungeon.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSaviour View Post
    If the actual 'iLv' to beat these new dungeons is 65-70 ... then SE needs to state it as Min Req, not some super low iLv. This will only serve to waste others time when a tank with 4200 HP joins and the group wipes repeatedly. (Has happened to me in Pharos, Tank had the lowest HP of the Group).
    The practical iLvL for an AVERAGE group probably will be closer to i65-70, but as a MINIMUM, a group of competent and skilled players could pull it off w/ i55. What would you say the MINIMUM for coil is? Do you think the AVERAGE pug can do it at that level? Probably not, but a skilled group can. Should all players be forced to go into content at the average requirement?

    I'm gonna laugh when everyone flips out that coil T1 has ~i65 for it's pre-req. First players to beat it were likely close to that.

    Edit: Also, fresh 50's won't be able to queue for i55 without doing a little bit of work. Full AF gives you i51 for those 5 slots. Even if they go get the FC weapon that is only one more slot at i55, so raise that to i52 if rounding is correct. Odds are good that most fresh 50s won't have higher than i55 accessories right of the bat, and it would take at least two at i60 + to get to i55 overall. Even if they do story roulette to finish their story line, that alone is not enough to get them two DL accessories. Granted, they could buy stuff on the MB, but I doubt most fresh 50s are going to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordSaviour View Post
    I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.
    Eh, close enough. My point is that it will probably be lower than the playerbase demands/expects (remember Titan HM, before the requirement existed), and then I will laugh.
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    Last edited by L-D-Omlette; 03-11-2014 at 03:59 AM.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post

    I'm gonna laugh when everyone flips out that coil T1 has ~i65 for it's pre-req. First players to beat it were likely close to that.
    I'd say the first to clear T1 Coil had Full Darklight with a few Mythos sprinkled in and Relic Weapon(Maybe even Zenith). So more like iLv75. The gear check on Cad is pretty huge tbh. Tanks have to have proper gear to mitigate damage, healers have to as well to recover lost HP and DD have to down the snakes before an inevitable wipe from too may stack.
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    I'm not disappointed but I am rather surprised at the low iLvl req. I seem to recall Yoshi saying the new Amdapor would be on the level of coil but tuned for a 4 man. Remains to be seen, I suppose. (I tried looking through past live letters for source, but I think it was during the video. I could also be delusional XD)
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I'm not disappointed but I am rather surprised at the low iLvl req. I seem to recall Yoshi saying the new Amdapor would be on the level of coil but tuned for a 4 man. Remains to be seen, I suppose. (I tried looking through past live letters for source, but I think it was during the video. I could also be delusional XD)
    He did say, and i'm paraphrasing here, 'the most difficult Light Party dungeon yet' and if it is, I really don't understand he iLv55 Min. Req. Will only serve to disappoint those who are that level trying to attempt and those of us who are properly geared trying to carry an iLv55 player.
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    I'd still run new dungeons for low level gear I don't really need if I think they could look nice for vanity sets and aren't just lazily... reskinned or recolored... armor... (Don't you laugh at me!)

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    Ball is in your court devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    I'd still run new dungeons for low level gear I don't really need if I think they could look nice for vanity sets and aren't just lazily... reskinned or recolored... armor... (Don't you laugh at me!)

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    Ball is in your court devs.
    Oh if they reskin Battlemage Robe again i'll gently weep in my Lonely Inn Room.
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