Time wasters

[mouseno4]

Actually considering how tense* you sound I'd say you ought to give it a go. We had one member that would stall coil out all the time. (He moved and no longer plays) but it certainly helped when half of the raid was on edge or annoyed. It can be a breath of fresh air. However you sound so serious - you have trouble downing coil or something? Were able to joke around and still get kills. Maybe you just need to relax - it's just a game after all. People have different ways of coping.

I can fully understand if you have somewhat close to a full LB3 or the boss is in its last few percent. But when there is 1, 2 or 3 left out of 8, 25-50%+ on the boss and there isnt even a LB1 available... just give it up and stop wasting everyone's time. You can do whatever the hell you want in your own FC run - but in a DF group, just wipe it so we can move on and progress through the dungeon.

[Mirakumi]

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Sometimes I tend to keep going even though its a wipe depends on the situation. Per say if it was titan and everyone died but me I would show them that the rotation isn't that hard. Plus when people give up right away - some people don't even get to see the rotation. I like to push so they get to see. Hey this landslide is coming up. If people learn from watching it's helpful.

People don't always do it out of animosity too - You have to take in account that people learn by seeing the fight. Not by - "ok guys lets wipe and pray we can understand the fight even tho we only made it X far"

[DSN]

I can fully understand if you have somewhat close to a full LB3 or the boss is in its last few percent. But when there is 1, 2 or 3 left out of 8, 25-50%+ on the boss and there isnt even a LB1 available... just give it up and stop wasting everyone's time. You can do whatever the hell you want in your own FC run - but in a DF group, just wipe it so we can move on and progress through the dungeon.

Did you just say you have expectations in DF? Um that's your first mistake.

If you want to play with like minded individuals find some, make some friends you only need a few and look you can now do all the dungeons you want how you want. Excepting everyone to play your style let alone to cater to your desires is just selfish.

I have also solo healed a Tank alone and finished bosses without any DPS, I mean I guess we could have given up and let you all fail to dodge and die again .... or we could consider you wasted space and finish it on our own but I guess that is irrelevant to your rant because you should just give up the moment anyone dies or there is a hiccup.

[mouseno4]

I disagree with you therefore I am ignorant. How about lets discuss the irony of people wasting your time while you are posting and tracking / replying to these posts? I mean if your time is so precious why don't you do something valuable with it like learning a new skill and bettering your self? Oh because you are just ranting on some forums that mean nothing to anyone and the majority of the replies would show that what you perceive to be a problem only seems to be affecting and bother you but yes we are all the problem.

No. Your arrogance shows your ignorance, far more than simply disagreeing with someone.

Yes. If there is a chance of the boss being killed then by all means. If you have or are very close to a LB3, or only have a fer percent left - by all means go nuts. I will even try to encourage and support you in this attempt.

But mucking around with a boss at 50%, less than half of the team alive and NO LB3 or anything close to it - no your just wasting everyone's time. Stop thinking of only yourself and try to work with the group - not against it.

[Mirakumi]

But mucking around with a boss at 50%, less than half of the team alive and NO LB3 or anything close to it - no your just wasting everyone's time. Stop thinking of only yourself and try to work with the group - not against it.

Limit Break 3 doesn't mean much most of the time in fights like Titan HM. If someone actually LB3'd as a healer I would say it wasn't the best move. After heart breaks it's very possible for a healer and tank to duo Titan. That's why it's not a waste of time. If you read his previous post he was talking in terms of Titan(well I see it as that with dodging as an issue lol). Which is clear he's not talking about Limit Breaking - he's talking of carrying 6 other members who died early on.

If one person is capable and has the mana to do it - they will. It's beautiful when it happens.

[Yurimi]

Limit Break 3 doesn't mean much most of the time in fights like Titan HM. If someone actually LB3'd as a healer I would say it wasn't the best move. After heart breaks it's very possible for a healer and tank to duo Titan. That's why it's not a waste of time. If you read his previous post he was talking in terms of Titan(well I see it as that with dodging as an issue lol). Which is clear he's not talking about Limit Breaking - he's talking of carrying 6 other members who died early on.

If one person is capable and has the mana to do it - they will. It's beautiful when it happens.

Yeah when I was redoing Titan HM for my SCH relic on this character I think at the end of it only me my bard friend and a tank were alive for the last 30% or so. Also to further my previous post and to avoid pics or it didnt happen.



and for story mode garuda

http://www.twitch.tv/mithrayurimi/c/3194597 scroll to about 20mins in

in neither case were we spectacularly geared.