Time wasters

[DSN]

I can fully understand if you have somewhat close to a full LB3 or the boss is in its last few percent. But when there is 1, 2 or 3 left out of 8, 25-50%+ on the boss and there isnt even a LB1 available... just give it up and stop wasting everyone's time. You can do whatever the hell you want in your own FC run - but in a DF group, just wipe it so we can move on and progress through the dungeon.

Did you just say you have expectations in DF? Um that's your first mistake.

If you want to play with like minded individuals find some, make some friends you only need a few and look you can now do all the dungeons you want how you want. Excepting everyone to play your style let alone to cater to your desires is just selfish.

I have also solo healed a Tank alone and finished bosses without any DPS, I mean I guess we could have given up and let you all fail to dodge and die again .... or we could consider you wasted space and finish it on our own but I guess that is irrelevant to your rant because you should just give up the moment anyone dies or there is a hiccup.

[Lafiele]

Why do people continue to waste people's time when the group is all but dead, there is no LB3 available to rez everyone, and only 1-3 people left.

Perpetuating a wipe only serves to piss people off.

Or maybe if you guys didn't cause the wipe so easily they wouldn't be left with 1-3 ppl. Having said that, there are times where people give up too easily and the remaining people do manage to finish the boss off. It's mostly a question of whether you are giving up too easily over another person who isn't willing to give up till the very end. I think I admire the latter more. Of course, if they're just jumping around wasting time that's another case.

Also your above comment actually makes you look like the ignorant person lol.

[mouseno4]

Or maybe if you guys didn't cause the wipe so easily they wouldn't be left with 1-3 ppl. Having said that, there are times where people give up too easily and the remaining people do manage to finish the boss off. It's mostly a question of whether you are giving up too easily over another person who isn't willing to give up till the very end. I think I admire the latter more. Of course, if they're just jumping around wasting time that's another case.

When they are running circles around the boss attempting to simply avoid being hit... its pretty obvious.

[mouseno4]

I disagree with you therefore I am ignorant. How about lets discuss the irony of people wasting your time while you are posting and tracking / replying to these posts? I mean if your time is so precious why don't you do something valuable with it like learning a new skill and bettering your self? Oh because you are just ranting on some forums that mean nothing to anyone and the majority of the replies would show that what you perceive to be a problem only seems to be affecting and bother you but yes we are all the problem.

No. Your arrogance shows your ignorance, far more than simply disagreeing with someone.

Yes. If there is a chance of the boss being killed then by all means. If you have or are very close to a LB3, or only have a fer percent left - by all means go nuts. I will even try to encourage and support you in this attempt.

But mucking around with a boss at 50%, less than half of the team alive and NO LB3 or anything close to it - no your just wasting everyone's time. Stop thinking of only yourself and try to work with the group - not against it.

[Doo]

I'm guilty of wasting players' time. I always feel like miracles can happen. Plus LB3 just looks too cool to waste.

[Krokov]

I would say it depends on who is alive at least one healer or someone who can raise and he'll is well I've been you could probably salvage that and get people up you could think of it as a challenge if you will try to keep going.

I was in doing cutters cry recently and we failed the first time second time all 3 DPS and the tank died on chimera and all that was alive was just the white mage who solo'ed the last I think 20 percent on him, now that is what you call good ingenuity and thinking outside the box almost not all strategies a work of course but if a boss fight is somehow salvageable try to win the boss fight before saying ah screw it Iets just start all over again.

[Yurimi]

Why do people continue to waste people's time when the group is all but dead, there is no LB3 available to rez everyone, and only 1-3 people left.

Perpetuating a wipe only serves to piss people off.

because sometimes its worth it. I once had a cutters cry party we wiped probably a dozen times on the final boss till finally I decided that was enough aero/bio kited the thing for the remaining 20mins while raising members each time swiftcast came up only to have them unweakened then we get back into it and they die again to the first Blue/Violet Eyes. In the end we succeeded because of zombie/kite tactics. Sometimes a wipe is a wipe but saying that just starting over is going to be faster is not an absolute. Another time me and a warrior duoed the last 25% of ifrit because the party could not stay alive and I was done wasting time on them. A few times in garuda story mode me and the tank have duoed the last 20%. and in these cases the party was rather happy that we did not pissed off at all.

[Mirakumi]

But mucking around with a boss at 50%, less than half of the team alive and NO LB3 or anything close to it - no your just wasting everyone's time. Stop thinking of only yourself and try to work with the group - not against it.

Limit Break 3 doesn't mean much most of the time in fights like Titan HM. If someone actually LB3'd as a healer I would say it wasn't the best move. After heart breaks it's very possible for a healer and tank to duo Titan. That's why it's not a waste of time. If you read his previous post he was talking in terms of Titan(well I see it as that with dodging as an issue lol). Which is clear he's not talking about Limit Breaking - he's talking of carrying 6 other members who died early on.

If one person is capable and has the mana to do it - they will. It's beautiful when it happens.

[Yurimi]

Limit Break 3 doesn't mean much most of the time in fights like Titan HM. If someone actually LB3'd as a healer I would say it wasn't the best move. After heart breaks it's very possible for a healer and tank to duo Titan. That's why it's not a waste of time. If you read his previous post he was talking in terms of Titan(well I see it as that with dodging as an issue lol). Which is clear he's not talking about Limit Breaking - he's talking of carrying 6 other members who died early on.

If one person is capable and has the mana to do it - they will. It's beautiful when it happens.

Yeah when I was redoing Titan HM for my SCH relic on this character I think at the end of it only me my bard friend and a tank were alive for the last 30% or so. Also to further my previous post and to avoid pics or it didnt happen.



and for story mode garuda

http://www.twitch.tv/mithrayurimi/c/3194597 scroll to about 20mins in

in neither case were we spectacularly geared.

[Waeksyn]

Two reasons. A healer or brd could be able to do LB3. Not often. Second reason is to get the practice, especially deeper into the raid. If you don't dick around but work the mechanics like you should, it's all good imo. Running around, though, is just a waste of time.