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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    I've been in a few fights where those last few alive have pulled off wins against all odds.

    As long as a Heal, Tank and DPS are alive, the fight can go on. Now, in the EX fights...maybe not (yay DPS checks!). But most others you can keep trying, and possibly win.

    EDIT: Recently I was helping a friend get Ifrit HM down (he tanked, I healed). Randoms were very new to lv50. Somehow we had the DPS for Nails, and continued on...until suddenly, there was me, MT (my friend) and a DPS or two still standing. I just went and rezed who I could, DPSed when I had a second and kept those up as best I could (yeah, the guys who kept eating charges and eruptions got to stay down after the second rez). Took a long time to win, but we won. Wasn't going to give up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Perpetuating a wipe only serves to piss people off.
    Good. Maybe they can use that anger to stop dieing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Why do people continue to waste people's time when the group is all but dead, there is no LB3 available to rez everyone, and only 1-3 people left.

    Perpetuating a wipe only serves to piss people off.
    Or maybe if you guys didn't cause the wipe so easily they wouldn't be left with 1-3 ppl. Having said that, there are times where people give up too easily and the remaining people do manage to finish the boss off. It's mostly a question of whether you are giving up too easily over another person who isn't willing to give up till the very end. I think I admire the latter more. Of course, if they're just jumping around wasting time that's another case.

    Also your above comment actually makes you look like the ignorant person lol.
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    Last edited by Lafiele; 03-08-2014 at 07:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lafiele View Post
    Or maybe if you guys didn't cause the wipe so easily they wouldn't be left with 1-3 ppl. Having said that, there are times where people give up too easily and the remaining people do manage to finish the boss off. It's mostly a question of whether you are giving up too easily over another person who isn't willing to give up till the very end. I think I admire the latter more. Of course, if they're just jumping around wasting time that's another case.
    When they are running circles around the boss attempting to simply avoid being hit... its pretty obvious.
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    I'm guilty of wasting players' time. I always feel like miracles can happen. Plus LB3 just looks too cool to waste.
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    I would say it depends on who is alive at least one healer or someone who can raise and he'll is well I've been you could probably salvage that and get people up you could think of it as a challenge if you will try to keep going.

    I was in doing cutters cry recently and we failed the first time second time all 3 DPS and the tank died on chimera and all that was alive was just the white mage who solo'ed the last I think 20 percent on him, now that is what you call good ingenuity and thinking outside the box almost not all strategies a work of course but if a boss fight is somehow salvageable try to win the boss fight before saying ah screw it Iets just start all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    Why do people continue to waste people's time when the group is all but dead, there is no LB3 available to rez everyone, and only 1-3 people left.

    Perpetuating a wipe only serves to piss people off.
    because sometimes its worth it. I once had a cutters cry party we wiped probably a dozen times on the final boss till finally I decided that was enough aero/bio kited the thing for the remaining 20mins while raising members each time swiftcast came up only to have them unweakened then we get back into it and they die again to the first Blue/Violet Eyes. In the end we succeeded because of zombie/kite tactics. Sometimes a wipe is a wipe but saying that just starting over is going to be faster is not an absolute. Another time me and a warrior duoed the last 25% of ifrit because the party could not stay alive and I was done wasting time on them. A few times in garuda story mode me and the tank have duoed the last 20%. and in these cases the party was rather happy that we did not pissed off at all.
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    Two reasons. A healer or brd could be able to do LB3. Not often. Second reason is to get the practice, especially deeper into the raid. If you don't dick around but work the mechanics like you should, it's all good imo. Running around, though, is just a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    That was great lol! Yep, this is the reason why and it gets just that exciting if you're skyping with everyone. Everyone's freakin' out and it's just awesome, especially if you pull the impossible off!
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