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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Simply because level-sync is optional and won't be used UNLESS there is a greater reward at the end. Then again, level-sync REQUIRES you to have a lower level in your group as opposed to a cap (optional for better reward) doesn't have that restriction and offers replay value. Again I stress optional with better rewards since it will please both people who wants to steamroll the low content because its so fun to them, and the ones that want a challenged available to them with somethign to show for.
    I can't tell if we're agreeing or not at this point, heheh.

    The impression I get from the "level cap" crowd is that the challenge is itself a reward. I'm not sure that offering better rewards for level-sync parties would be fair to parties that are composed entirely of legitimate R25 classes.

    I have no problem with people who want to experience the content at-level, but I do take issue with the insistence that everyone should be forced to.

    Myself, I have days where I want the challenge, and days when I want the streamroll. Maybe that's why having an optional level sync seems the ideal solution for me.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    By the time this patch hits I wont have any 25-30 jobs left and I should be forced to Leave one at mid content level just to experience the dungeon with a challenge. Are you familiar with common sense?
    First of all, I don't see you getting 5 jobs above the required rank before the patch. And if you DO, knowing what you know as of this moment, then YES it is your fault.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    i got a huge feeling youll easily find people to do it that arent 50s
    or people who have 50s(and lower jobs) who will GLADLY go on that lower job to run it at the range you desire for it

    so that shouldnt be a problem
    Quote Originally Posted by EgweneALvere View Post
    And that is when you kindly say "No Thanks" You DON'T have to accept a higher lvl person in your pt.
    You must be new to MMORPGs. This looks great on paper, but simply does not happen in practice.

    Then again, that's the status quo for this game, isn't it?
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogun_Riastradh View Post
    Our point is, we don't have R30's anymore. So yes, we are very familiar with the armoury system.
    What's your character name and server?
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Why would anyone do 5-stars if there is no incentive? Also scaling is not really good for replay value because at one point you will still out-level the content and be able to take people on your 5-star runs while they sit back and you clear everything. Optional cap with better rewards offers that, rewarded challenge for those who wish and no challenge for the others who wants that. So that even in 5 years, if you want to help a new person get those special rewards, you still have a challenge waiting.
    why should they do the r30 dungeon when they have 50s and dont need r30 gear?
    its the samer arguement, CUZ THEY CAN

    the important thing here is that players want to play a certain way, and they should stop caring how other players play

    if there is no rank cap, there is no rank cap, it doesnt ruin the experience for ANYONE who wants to do it at the designed level of the dungeon, since all they have to do, is do it at those levels

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Then run it as a rank 30! lol. For pete's sake. Are you familiar with how the armoury system in FFXIV works?
    Not everyone wants to play different classes, yet everyone might want ongoing challenges.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    so if you dont care how i play the game why do you w3ant to force me to play it your way?
    No one can be this dumb. I just refuse to believe that you cannot be trolling. Capping a dungeon at x level does not hurt anyone below are at that specific level. If you are R50 and could CARE LESS about mid content then don't do it.
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  8. #128
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    No I am not new to MMO's I just know how to say no if I need/want to.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    You must be new to MMORPGs. This looks great on paper, but simply does not happen in practice.

    Then again, that's the status quo for this game, isn't it?
    ah, more insults, love it
    so your telling us that everyone has your attitude basicaly, being stuck up and thinking that everyone is just a douchy player altogether

    no, i have more faith in people then that

    if people want to do r30s, with r30 players, then people will be on their r30s helping them out to do it


    people are there in those ranges, people have jobs in those ranges, those players will be allowed to do the content at the designed level, easily

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    First of all, I don't see you getting 5 jobs above the required rank before the patch. And if you DO, knowing what you know as of this moment, then YES it is your fault.
    First off you are an idiot. That is not my Lodestone. This is: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...cicuid=1271410 I have THM at 28 and MRD at 22 atm and they will both be mid 40's by the time this patch hits. Maybe do a little more research before you try and prove a point.
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